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Seven Languages in Seven Weeks - Has anyone read this book? Opinions? http://pragprog.com/titles/btl­ang/seven-languages-in-seven-w­eeks I think one of my goals in 2011 is to pick a few languages and do a deep dive. Haskell, Go, and Scala are probably my top choices. -Mike Sent Michael M. Dec 26, 2010 5:20 PM
Re: [nycjava] Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble. - Sorry if you're taking this as a personal attack. ?I reread what I wrote after I sent it and thought "OK, the language was a touch strong there", but I stand by my point. ?If you're going to make statements, you're debating by defaul Kevin G. Dec 26, 2010 4:40 PM
Re: [nycjava] Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble.com - Sounds like a good idea for an upcoming meetup - let's followup off list. ?We can even include the code generating web frameworks too ;-)? Seriously, to clarify I'm not anti-code generation but was responding to the one comment Dario L. Dec 26, 2010 3:53 PM
Re: [nycjava] Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble. - Respect to all for maintaining passionate differences of opinion but preserving respect as well. My only crit is that some well-crafted snippets might help clarify your points for the less fluent/experienced. I Jeremy D. Dec 26, 2010 12:56 PM
Re: [nycjava] Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble. - Kevin, You made some interesting points. I'll try to look past the insults and treat them with the respect we all Finnbar Dec 26, 2010 12:38 PM
Re: [nycjava] Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble. - Nobody should take anything here personally. Its just programming. ;) Anyway in my experience I'm alot more productive in Grails/Groovy than anything else. Ruby/Rails + Python/Django are really really good, the former having a lot m user 8. Dec 26, 2010 11:44 AM
Re: [nycjava] Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble. - People shouldn't take every critisism as Java bashing. Java is always being improved, but given its wide usage it will happen slowly. A little criticism can help make the language better. Closures are now definitely goin Michael M. Dec 26, 2010 11:29 AM
Re: [nycjava] Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble. - Nisith, On Dec 25, 2010, at 8:56 PM, NISITH DASH wrote: > There is not a single web framework in this world that scales..it has > NOT been invented yet and will never be as such a thing doesn't exist. What does this mean? If it means something Finnbar Dec 26, 2010 9:37 AM
Re: [nycjava] Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble. - cobol On Dec 26,[masked]:19 AM, "NISITH DASH" < [address removed] > wrote: > @Dario Thanks for providing the link ( Patrick Saint L. Dec 26, 2010 8:56 AM
Re: [nycjava] Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble. - @Dario Thanks for providing the link (http://langpop.com) . PHP is of course in there because my grandmother is a PHP ninja like 40% humans on this planet. @Jeremy I've used code-generation frameworks like Grails/Roo many times. I do hate them but NISITH D. Dec 26, 2010 8:18 AM
Re: [nycjava] Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble. - Love reviewing that link. ?Will learn more. ?Thank you. Your points are all well-taken, with one exception: Why are you against considering code-generation methods or frameworks? Jeremy D. Dec 26, 2010 6:06 AM
Re: [nycjava] Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble. - I've indicated to try to keep it to a Java framework vs Java framework debate, as much of this has been rehashed over the last 4 years already. For every argument and stat there'll counter arguments and more stats - e.g. how many websites use and Dario L. Dec 26, 2010 5:40 AM
Re: [nycjava] Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble. - Thank you all again for very interesting comments. I am an old dba / c++ dev who has seen too much packaging of bad code in stored routines AND objects. Since this is an oop crowd w Jeremy D. Dec 26, 2010 5:36 AM
Re: [nycjava] Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble. - You might want to check out Haskell for high-productivity static typing, but be aware that, unlike Scheme/Lisp/OCaml, it is lazy and purely functional. On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 10:16 PM, NISITH DASH < user 1. Dec 26, 2010 5:12 AM
Re: [nycjava] Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble. - I would retract from my statement that static typing is unsuited for web development. That's an grossly incorrect and rash remark on my part. "10x more productive" is an totally unsubstantiated ROR battle cry to huddle up folks in the camp. Dyn NISITH D. Dec 26, 2010 1:16 AM
Re: [nycjava] Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble. - This is good. I love intense discussions. I have worked with c/c++ , perl, php, lisp, even visual basic and c#. I've worked with many frameworks and libraries in those languages for c Dikai L. Dec 26, 2010 12:39 AM
Re: [nycjava] Java web frameworks - Mmm a language war on the Java list on xmas no less ;-) Let's try to keep it for other lists/meetups (once the language slapdown meetup gets rescheduled we'll announce that here). Keeping it in persp Dario L. Dec 25, 2010 11:11 PM
Re: [nycjava] Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble. - " I completely agree with your thoughts that static typing and the r Kevin G. Dec 25, 2010 10:01 PM
Re: [nycjava] Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble. - I completely agree with your thoughts that static typing and the rigid syntax of Java is unsuited for rapid iteration on agile web site development. Every language has its strengths and weaknesses. It may be unfortunate but the 'one size fits all' p NISITH D. Dec 25, 2010 8:55 PM
Re: [nycjava] Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble. - 0. The web isn't built on java. Sure there are plenty of java websites. But take a look at the high traffic sites and you'll see that a small minority are written in java (flickr - php, amazon- c, google- c++, python, twitter- ruby / scala, meetup - jav Finnbar Dec 25, 2010 7:51 PM
Re: [nycjava] Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble. - Preview not available jonfelch Dec 25, 2010 5:37 PM
Re: [nycjava] Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble. - "Java just isn't a great fit for the web." What was the web running on for the last 10 years? PHP i bet :) I think the next big mainstream programming language that can dare to fit into the shoes of Java may be just round the corner. All of these NISITH D. Dec 25, 2010 5:04 PM
Re: [nycjava] Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble. - Using alternative frameworks (like Play!, Grails, or even Roo) makes Java based web development decently fun. However the language do Joshua K. Dec 25, 2010 3:45 PM
Re: [nycjava] Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble.com - I think it depends on what you're looking for and what you prefer: how you define a "great" framework? I think a Java web framework comparison meetup in which everyone implements a simple application in a different framework could be very in Ben B. Dec 25, 2010 3:32 PM
Re: [nycjava] Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble. - I spent four years of my life doing Java web stuff and I don't expect there'll ever be a great Java web framework. Java just isn't a great fit for the web. It's an amazing platform but ruby on rails is 10x as productive. Finnbar Dec 25, 2010 3:12 PM
Re: [nycjava] Java web frameworks - Well there's Struts , Spring et al. But true, I prefer php , Perl ( Gustavo Dec 25, 2010 1:07 PM
Re: [nycjava] Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble.com - I'm not a Java hater but why aren't there any great Java web frameworks? Michael M. Dec 25, 2010 12:55 PM
Spring - Is there any online material to quickly learn Spring framework? thanks venkk -- Will and Wisdom are both mighty leaders.? Our times worship will. Venkk Dec 25, 2010 12:32 PM
Re: [nycjava] Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble.com - Preview not available Robert E. Dec 25, 2010 12:11 PM
Re: [nycjava] Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble.com - Preview not available Yong K. Dec 24, 2010 11:49 PM
Project & Program Management Job Opportunities - Preview not available molly m. Dec 24, 2010 8:14 PM
Re: [nycjava] Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble.com - Is this list a joke ?? Stop spamming people. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 22, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Jeremy Donson < [address removed] > wrote: Apurva Dec 23, 2010 2:35 PM
Job Opportunity: Teach at Pratt Institute (Manhattan) - user 1. Dec 22, 2010 5:51 PM
Re: [nycjava] Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble.com - Preview not available Jeremy D. Dec 22, 2010 1:25 PM
Software Engineering Opportunities at BarnesandNoble.com - Leif B. Dec 22, 2010 1:02 PM
User Interface Java Developer job Opportunity - user 1. Dec 21, 2010 12:41 PM
(Job Posting) Agile Java Lead Development Role NYC (Full-time Perm) - Erin C. Dec 21, 2010 9:50 AM
Monday: Java Best Practices, Intro to MongoDB+Java, MongoDB+Spring Tues: Party - Just a Reminder about Monday's meeting! - Plus there's a special NYC Tech Holiday Party on Tuesday - RSVP link below meetup announcement: What : December Meetup: Java Best Practic Dario L. Dec 17, 2010 6:56 PM
Sr. Java Developer job Opportunity - user 1. Dec 17, 2010 9:57 AM
RE: [nycjava] Java Web Developer --- New York, NY [masked] - user 7. Dec 16, 2010 12:33 PM
Java Web Developer --- New York, NY [masked] - user 1. Dec 16, 2010 12:27 PM
December NYC Java Meetup - Just a reminder that next Monday is the monthly Java Meetup - it's been moved back to the 3rd Monday Since we're at capacity, please if you can't make it - change your RSVP to NO as there's a waiting list. thanks and happy holidays, Dario L. Dec 13, 2010 1:54 PM
Long Term Java Consultancy - New York, NY - user 1. Dec 13, 2010 10:08 AM
Java Development roles all levels - Java Development roles all levels Hi Everyone, We are currently looking for a number of developers, (all levels) to wo user 4. Dec 2, 2010 11:43 AM
Java Technical Lead Opportunity - Fulltime Position / Immediate Hire - user 7. Dec 2, 2010 11:35 AM
Re: [nycjava] Re: Exciting opportunities for solid Java and/or eComm developers/architects - Andy B. Dec 1, 2010 5:57 PM
Re: Exciting opportunities for solid Java and/or eComm developers/architects - Sorry, I posted an inaccurate link. Here is the right one: http://myjobs-en.becruiter.net­/jobagent/search/simple_search­.aspx?cp=7002&c=3 Frank Frank Z. Dec 1, 2010 12:38 PM
Sr.-level Java Architect in Financials a plus - contract or perm - Chicago Il - user 4. Nov 29, 2010 8:02 PM
SENIOR FRONT END JAVA SCRIPT DEVELOPER IS NEEDED NEW YORK 145 K - Volora H. Nov 27, 2010 2:13 PM
Exciting opportunities for solid Java and/or eComm developers/architects - We are an IT solutions company mainly focusing on delivering cutting edge global web projects. Some of our current projects are: - delivering a global solution for a Fortune 50 company with a the first roll-out in China - building a global eCo Frank Z. Nov 24, 2010 5:06 PM
Java Developer/Engineer Contract in CT (Travel Expenses Covered!) - Erin C. Nov 24, 2010 10:53 AM
Java Developer,Groovy + Grails, Oracle Full Time Position in Jersey City 110K - Volora H. Nov 18, 2010 4:18 PM
Fwd: [nycjava] SOA LEAD (SOA) Needed -Piscataway, NJ LONG TERM FULL TERM CONTRACT $75 PER HOUR - ? Volora H. Nov 18, 2010 3:28 PM
Fwd: [nycjava] Front End Java Developer Needed -Piscataway, NJ LONG TERM FULL TERM CONTRACT $65 PER HOUR - ?Front End Java Developer Needed -Piscataway, ?NJ LONG TERM FULL TERM CONTRACT ?$65 Volora H. Nov 18, 2010 3:22 PM
Re: [nycjava] Java Developer is Needed - Piscatway , NJ LONG TERM CONTRACT 12 MONTHS $75 PER HOUR - Volora H. Nov 18, 2010 11:17 AM
Re: [nycjava] Junior Java Developer - Also keep in mind that you want to reply to a specific person, and not the entire list. On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Justin Edelson < [address removed] Ben B. Nov 18, 2010 10:53 AM
Re: [nycjava] Junior Java Developer - word to the wise: anywhere is one word. On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:17 AM, aaloksinghvi wrote: > > > Job Application Cover Letter > > Aalok Singhvi > > Ph:[masked] > > [address removed] > > > > Dear Sir/ M Justin E. Nov 18, 2010 10:42 AM
Junior Java Developer - aaloksinghvi Nov 18, 2010 10:16 AM
Re: [nycjava] Full Time Permanent Junior Java - White Plain, NY 75K - My client seeks a Junior Java ?Developer ? -Compensation ?is 75K Volora H. Nov 18, 2010 10:12 AM
Re: [nycjava] Production Support Lead - Upper Saddle River, NJ [masked] - Please find attached my resume.. Ajay Verma (732)[masked] user 1. Nov 18, 2010 9:47 AM
Production Support Lead - Upper Saddle River, NJ [masked] - user 1. Nov 17, 2010 6:05 PM
Market Data Java Developer (Long Term Consultant) - Midtown - user 1. Nov 17, 2010 9:27 AM
Re: [nycjava] Core Java Consultant Opportunity - Midtown - who is it for? Simeon L. Nov 9, 2010 11:05 PM
Fwd: Staff Director, IT Architect or Director of Software Development, Piscataway, NJ - Preview not available Volora H. Nov 9, 2010 6:33 PM
[JOB] Java Developer Opportunities - NYC - Who We Are Looking For We are looking to hire a small team of multi-disciplined Java developers to develop our next generation ticketing solution. We will be working with the latest technologies an Jim M. Nov 9, 2010 6:05 PM
Core Java Consultant Opportunity - Midtown - user 1. Nov 9, 2010 1:47 PM
Java Developers Needed for NYC Coupon Technology Company - Seth S. Nov 8, 2010 10:50 AM
Thanks to all who came last night to the NYC Java Meetup! - Last night we had a special "10 Years of The Java Specialists' Newsletter" presented by Dr Heinz Kabutz. He's asked me to forward the following: -------------- Dario L. Nov 5, 2010 3:52 PM
[Job] Gilt City Software Engineers! - Rockman Nov 1, 2010 10:33 AM
Interview 20 companies for software jobs in 2 hours - Preview not available Nathan H. Oct 31, 2010 6:54 PM
Unit Testing - Nice discussion on Hacker News. http://news.ycombinator.com/it­em?id=1846704 Sent from my iPad Michael M. Oct 29, 2010 7:47 AM
Re: [nycjava] Java Website with fast response times - Smells like spam to me. Regards, -Josh Joshua K. Oct 27, 2010 11:44 AM
Java Website with fast response times - All Java gurus might want to check out the website user 1. Oct 27, 2010 11:12 AM
Manager, Java Application Development position! - user 1. Oct 21, 2010 10:48 AM
Awesome Opportunities at Infusion Development - user 1. Oct 20, 2010 3:59 PM
Core Java Consultant Opportunity - user 1. Oct 20, 2010 3:55 PM
Re: [nycjava] (JOB) New JuggleFest Puzzle and Senior Software Engineers @ Yodle ,NY - So i am also an avid juggler. But i cant tell from your email if you are actualy gona be doing any juggling. I already solved your last puzzle, and id rather juggle than code, so whats the deal? "Aviv Wecler" wrote: >Hey NY Java Mitch Oct 20, 2010 10:51 AM
(JOB) New JuggleFest Puzzle and Senior Software Engineers @ Yodle ,NY - Aviv W. Oct 20, 2010 10:23 AM
(JOB) PERMANENT Java Lead---PUBLISHING - Claudia C. Oct 19, 2010 10:34 AM
New Jobs with Unlimited vacation: Development Manager & Senior Software Engineer - Scott C. Oct 19, 2010 7:58 AM
We have clients. Do you have the expertise? Let's collaborate and get more business. - We have clients. Do you have the expertise? Let's collaborate and get more business. The FDONY is currently seeking to build a collaborative network of web solutions providers for the fulfillment of incoming projects. Freelance Developers of New York p user 1. Oct 17, 2010 11:08 PM
webinar today: "JEE 6 and CDI: Moving away from the clutter of Spring and other frameworks" - Sorry for the last min notice, thought it might be interesting to the group: Here's the related article: Dario L. Oct 14, 2010 11:08 AM
last night's J1 2010 review, upcoming Oracle event, join the JCP - Thanks to all who attended last night's J1 2010 review. A special thanks to http://spinback.com for hosting the location and to our meetup members and fellow J1 2010 speakers, Tim Fagan, Christ Dario L. Oct 13, 2010 6:17 PM
(JOB) Senior Software Engineer @ Yodle, New York - Aviv W. Oct 13, 2010 5:39 PM
Re: [nycjava] [JOB] Jr. Server Side Developer, AppNexus, NYC - Preview not available Varun M. Oct 13, 2010 5:35 PM
Re: [nycjava] Offshore team - Hi Igor, We can meet for a coffee if you like. I am in midtown 46 and 5th ..send me a contact no. or email me a time ..if you Apurva Oct 8, 2010 10:29 AM
Offshore team - Are there anyone who are looking for partnership with small offshore team? Actually we aren't those enterprise java-guys, we hate megabytes of xml, weblogic, oracle, jsf, etc. But we know for sure that Java is most mature platform for server-side dev Igor A. Oct 7, 2010 8:21 PM
[Full time UI Engineer needed for NYC!] - Lisa Oct 7, 2010 12:16 PM
Re: [nycjava] FULL TIME JAVA AND UI DEVELOPER ROLE IN NYC - Opps Sorry guys! On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Sejal Dsouza < [address removed] > wrote: Sejal D. Oct 5, 2010 8:30 PM
Re: [nycjava] FULL TIME JAVA AND UI DEVELOPER ROLE IN NYC - Hi Pankaj, ? This is Sejal Dsouza. I was wondering if the startup has other positions available too? I am a Computer Engineer with a Masters in Marketing, currently gaining experience in the Telecommunications industry. Attach Sejal D. Oct 5, 2010 8:28 PM
FULL TIME JAVA AND UI DEVELOPER ROLE IN NYC - user 1. Oct 5, 2010 8:02 PM
*Spinback is hiring* Software Developers (Java) - Andrew F. Oct 5, 2010 5:11 PM
[JOB] Gilt / Jetsetter Software Engineering Position - Rockman Oct 5, 2010 11:28 AM
Senior Java Developer - Can you write Java code without an IDE? Do you know how to set the CLASSPATH on Windows/Linux? Do you know how to use the debugger for an application running under Tomcat? Can you write JOIN statements without having to look them up? Can you write an Michael M. Oct 4, 2010 12:18 AM
Re: [nycjava] Senior Java Developer Opening in NYC - Simeon L. Sep 30, 2010 8:35 PM
September Java Meetup: JavaOne 2010 Redux - I've updated this Meetup. For more details, see the full listing: http://www.meetup.com/nycjava/­calendar/13666561/ When : Tuesday, September 28,[masked]:30 PM Dario L. Sep 20, 2010 12:21 PM
Java Consultant Opportunity - NYC - user 1. Sep 17, 2010 4:31 PM
Make contacts with Web Professionals that can help further develop your business on the Internet. - user 1. Sep 16, 2010 6:24 PM
Hiring Sr. Java Lead / Smart Grid & Electric Vehicles - I'm the hiring manager (not a recruiter). The Prosser Group ( user 1. Sep 8, 2010 12:10 AM
Re: [nycjava] Sr. Java Swing Developer Job Opportunity - Preview not available Phillip M. Sep 1, 2010 4:22 PM

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