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Re: [python-172] [python classes]

From: avi
Sent on: Friday, May 1, 2009 4:53 PM
the idea of an training looks great check at openquery they have a great model!  I'd be willing to instruct some sessions.

Avi Kohn
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-----Original Message-----
From: David Christian <[address removed]>

Date: Fri, 1 May[masked]:09:35 
To: <[address removed]>
Subject: Re: [python-172] [python classes]

On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 1:05 AM, juliuso <[address removed]> wrote:
> Hi Dave:
> Haven't been to a meetup since last summer due to work, but am
> definitely interested in learning more Python and networking with
> other members of the community.
> To answer your questions:
> 1. Yes. Even though I took some C++ and Java classes in school, the
> issues that will arise are, what baselines (prereq experience) should
> be established for people wanting to take the courses. To reach the
> broadest possible audience, I think a good introduction-beginne­r class
> should have the objective of learning how to automate repetitive tasks
> and manipulating data sets such as text files, CSV extracts, etc. Many
> people use Excel and VBA to perform their data transformations, but in
> the end can only do so much and is specific to Excel and Microsoft
> platforms. Python would be able to do anything, anywhere. Include
> simple scripts in this category as well.
Interesting idea!  I certainly like the idea of making there be an
objective for the course, "after this course you should be able to..."

> 2. Yes. This I think would be an intermediate course that would
> require knowing the basics such as stuff in #1 in addition to
> databases. Is Django the most widely used web framework in use? I
> guess if the group has the most Django experience, it's the way to go
> as opposed to learning something else.

Most widely used python framework (although I certainly can't even say
that for certain, as zope/plone are rather popular as well.  Rather I
could say that it has had a meteoric rise in popularity recently and
is something that I personally enjoy writing code in).

> 3. Yes. There's nothing wrong in charging for the courses. They should
> be priced far below what is available from commercial trainers, and if
> priced right, you'll have a large turnout. For perspective, NYU SCPS
> charges $1095 for a 10-session, 30 hour course for $1095 which
> requires prior programming experience (http://www.scps.n...­
> ).

Thanks for that link, that is helpful.

 It'd be great to make it profitable and be able to have an office
> with dedicated training/meeting space--an Open Source/Python
> institute. In this economy, people want to build more skills and
> knowing Python is huge leverage. That and office rents are still
> coming down with many vacancies. Certainly not going to happen
> overnight, but a worthy goal. I guess renting training space would be
> a good start.

Yes, I agree that would be great.

> 4. Still a noob, so I can't be of much help in curriculum planning,
> but am willing to help out in any way that I can, and definitely take
> the courses myself!

Great, thanks for the feedback!

> Thanks and keep us posted.
> JO

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