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Peter suggested this topic. I manhandled his original write-up. In the Declaration of Independence, we are told we are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. Unalienable rights cannot be given up, taken away or transferred, even if we want to. They are part of us and help define what we are (as humans). There is a difference between a "privilege" and a "right". You do not have the "right" to drive a car; it is provisional, based on your ability to drive safely. Drive unsafely, and it will be revoked. The word “right” is being used for political purposes, by both the right and the left; it has taken on a privileged meaning: if you can establish a "right", then it cannot be taken away or abridged. It is part of spinning and framing in order to get political advantage. Special interest groups try to establish their preferred policy as a "right": gun "rights", abortion "rights", health care "rights", minimum income and/or welfare "rights", retirement/Social Security "rights". But these are necessarily limited (cannot use a gun to commit murder, cannot perform an abortion in the 9th month, cannot perform a heart/lung transplant on a 90 year old, etc). We struggle with how to regulate these "rights" fairly. And some question whether they are "rights" at all. Can’t get what you want from your State legislature? Call it a right, file suit, and wait for the Supremes to come to your rescue. Want to block your State legislature, or Congress from doing something, or preventing you from doing something? Say your rights are being violated, file a suit, and fight your way to the Supremes. The United Nations stated that "Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control." What is keeping us from fully implementing this? Probably cost. Come and talk about Rights with us!

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Tired of spending your evening socializing with others talking about the weather, your job, or the big game. Prefer to have a deep and meaningful conversation instead? We could talk about politics, science, spirituality, the environment, the male/female relationship, or the nature of the universe. Heck, we could even have a meaningful conversation about meaninglessness.

Come join us, help us choose something fun and meaningful to talk about, and lets get in there deep over a cup of tea, or a beer if it suits.

If you are just looking for a good argument, this group is not for you. But if you are craving some good conversation and truly want to communicate and learn from other peoples perspectives. . .

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