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Discussion: The Monetary Institution

This topic was suggested by a member.  I'll have more details up for this soon, but in summary we'll be discussing the influence that the big corporate system has on us as a community and individuals, and what we can do to move beyond that.

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  • paula m.

    Hi Jeremy!! Well, as Ray & I CONTINUE to read all of the comments from this meeting, I think you NOW know, why we said we were choosing NOT to attend THIS ONE!!
    HOLY SMOKES!! Debate---Debate---DEBATE!!
    And, "it" feels like a fair amount of Anger.
    So, now I suppose, a lot of people, will throw "stones", at us for writing this.
    REMEMBER: This is OUR opinions!
    In closing, we really hope, that you have kept our request, for the Topic that we suggested.
    We believe that this would be, quite refreshing, & promote cohesion & harmony.
    Thank you for always being KIND, to us!!
    Paula & Ray

    July 24, 2013

  • chris l.

    I would like to hear from some group members about their views and ideas of citizenship. In our group, it seemed there was an aversion to being involved in the politics of issues, as if it were a distraction from their individual purpose and pursuits. I like to think we can embrace it all, living our truth while being politically educated and active to make our city, state, country and world the place we want to call home.

    1 · July 23, 2013

    • chris l.

      Jeremy, I couldn't disagree more. I think it is our moral responsibility to be informed, involved citizens along with being our highest selves. I've been a political activist all my life, and I don't understand the thought process that laws override the choice to be good. It just doesn't make sense to me. It's almost like saying that following the dictates of your chosen religion override your ability to be good. Most recently, food insecurity in western NC has been an issue that I've worked on. Laws are simply part of our large and complex society. I suppose if you want to live off the grid in a commune, then you can do whatever you choose. Having grown up in the sixties as an anti-war activist, I have many friends who chose to retreat from it all and form their own communes off the grid. Whatever pleases. . . .

      July 23, 2013

    • Jeremy M

      I can see this is something you're passionate about, Chris. I don't disregard the need for good, moral laws that protect people. I think they can set the legal tone and atmosphere in a country. I simply believe that positive change cannot be forced upon people. At least not most of the time (the forced end to slavery would be one notable exception, and even that took decades before people's hearts caught up with the laws). I don't think we can use a legislative hammer to beat our society into a positive submission. I believe the best change comes at an individual level, or through grass-roots movements that change local communities which in turn impact communities around them.

      July 23, 2013

  • Nina T.

    I ended up talking about microlending site Kiva.org again. Here's a cool video that shows the pattern of lending over time:
    http://vimeo.com/28413747

    And here's a link to my lending team "Something Beautiful" on Kiva:
    http://www.kiva.org/invitedto/something_beautiful/by/somebeaut

    If you use it to join, you will get a free $25 to invest and so will I. (You don't get to keep the proceeds, they go back to the sponsor, but still—you get to make a loan with someone else's money!)

    I started out with $100 of my own money, and have now leant out $325 dollars. It's incredibly rewarding and ridiculously fun and easy to do.

    My team currently has only four members, but we've made 23 loans for a total of $575 and counting. I'd love it if you'd join us.

    You can help someone who will better their own life and that of their community. You can join with others who are doing the same thing. It's a win-win-win!

    1 · July 23, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Vocation is where our greatest passion meets the world’s greatest need. ~ Frederick Buechner

    1 · July 22, 2013

    • chris l.

      Of course. And, Lawrence, I enjoyed your contributions to the conversation last night!

      July 23, 2013

  • chris l.

    Lawrence asked me to post this quote from James Hollis that seemed to resonate with our group. Hollis asks each of us to ponder the question: "What is trying to come into the world through me."

    July 23, 2013

  • paula m.

    Jeremy, Now that Ray & I see the chosen Topic, we may NOT attend. We DO NOT like to debate---& this is not only a "loaded" Topic, but one that will have NO JOY, nor a pleasant outcome---in our opinions.
    We like the Group, however, the past several times, it was a have "no end" discussion, filled with a lot of negativity.
    We choose to participate in HAPPY, Discussions. AND---Why attend, if you feel "down", upon leaving????
    Thanks for Reading! Ray & Paula

    July 17, 2013

    • Aaron

      Ray and Paula, I'm sorry to hear you won't be attending. Hopefully next time!

      July 22, 2013

    • Nina T.

      I'm sorry you missed a truly rewarding and positive conversation.

      1 · July 23, 2013

  • Ron C.

    Great discussion - one of the best. I love the opportunity to see the synergy of integrated perspectives when there is both passion and respect expressed in the conversation.

    1 · July 22, 2013

  • Cynthia S.

    One of the best Open Table discussions I've been to. It brought to life the only "truism" I'll swear by (some of you have heard me say this numerous times before!), which is that "people are different." We have different strengths and capacities, different natural proclivities, different stages in life, different ages, different family circumstances, and so on. There is not one right way of interpreting reality (however wedded we might be to our own "truthiness," to quote Stephen Colbert!) or one right way to work for a better world. There was such diversity around our table and at the same time integrity in each person acting as they feel led. Thanks all!

    July 22, 2013

  • Jeremy M

    I entered into this discussion feeling like I knew very little about the topic. But what a great conversation stemmed from a few simple questions. Thank you to everyone who came out and shared their stories and experiences!

    July 22, 2013

  • chris l.

    Each person contributed to a spirited discussion with many interesting perspectives. I enjoyed it immensely.

    July 22, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Chris, would you post your quote from tonight? Thanks, Lawrence

    July 22, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Very good discussion! We need to encourage each other like this more often. Thanks, everyone!

    July 22, 2013

  • Jeremy M

    Thank you everyone for your comments. It is a topic that I know little about, but I look forward to learning from many in our group who have a deeper understanding of bringing economy back to the local community. The more I have researched the topic, the more I realize it is a good follow up to our last topic on individualism and community. I look forward to seeing everyone this evening!

    July 22, 2013

  • paula m.

    Jeremy, Ray & Paula, will NOT be attending this evening. We hope, you will SOON consider, the idea for a Discussion, that we recently gave to you. Thank you! Ray & Paula

    July 22, 2013

  • Ron C.

    There is a lot going on around the country on the subject of co-creating a "new economy". It is a very positive movement and has great potential for shifting into a completely new way of looking at economics and getting it out of the control of the elite. I too would like to see the discussion focused on how we are personally involved (or want to be involved) in moving this forward.

    2 · July 19, 2013

  • Nina T.

    I hope everyone will be mindful that economics and the generation and movement of wealth is a TREMENDOUSLY complicated matter. Honest Nobel-prize-winning economists will tell you that there's just not that much about these systems that is truly well-understood. That doesn't mean we shouldn't talk about it—not at all!—but it does make me mindful that I'm going to be speaking largely personally, anecdotally, and from an admitted position of relative ignorance.

    2 · July 18, 2013

  • Helen

    Great topic I'm sure we can all weigh in on. Cynthia, I agree with you; the second half of this topic should bring some interesting options.

    July 18, 2013

  • Cynthia S.

    Agreed that if we just dwell on the first part of this topic it would be a downer. But the key here is the last part: "What can we do to move beyond that?" Count me in!

    July 18, 2013

  • paula m.

    I wrote on a TOPIC SUGGESTION, on the Public Page.
    Thank You! Paula & Ray

    July 17, 2013

  • paula m.

    Jeremy, Here is a suggestion, for a Topic.
    STAYING IN: JOY & HAPPINESS, while continuing to look at: WHAT IS!!
    There is ALWAYS: "What is." We all have the CHOICE, to "fall" into: WHAT IS---or---Create exactly what we want!!
    The "benchmark of where any one of us is "at", is by the company that surrounds us, & if they choose to belabor: What Is---or---create, What you Truly want.
    Thank You!* Paula & Ray

    July 17, 2013

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