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NH4K: The Wildcats (Intermediate)

  • Jun 1, 2013 · 9:00 AM

Organizer: John (LAG) Lagasse (978)[masked]

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  • Read the entire description before you RSVP.
  • If you RSVP "YES" the next page displayed is the questions.
  • Answer all questions that are part of the RSVP.
  • Failure to answer them will result in your removal from this event.
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  • If for some reason you cannot get the the Questions and you have REREAD these instructions and FOLLOWED them please send me an email.

Your safety, and the safety of the group, is the most important thing. If you underestimate the demands of this event; overestimate your experience, knowledge, skills or abilities; or come unprepared you put yourself and others at risk – consider this before you decide to participate.

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What we're doing

The plan is to climb two of the NH 4,000 Footers - Wildcat D (#37 on NH4K @ 4,070') and Wildcat A (#20 on NH4K @ 4,422') Wildcat A  is located in the Carter-Moriah Range and offers dramatic, close-up views of Mount Washington and the Presidential Range. Wildcat D is home to the Wildcat Ski Area and is considered an independent 4,000-footer.

We will car spot at 19 Mile Brook Trailhead. The hike leaves the Glen Ellis Falls Trailhead to reach the Wildcat Ridge Trail. This is a steep climb over open ledges but there are some great views along the way to Wildcat D. Taking 19 Mile Brook Trail back to our cars.

NOTE:  Anne and I will be staying at Dolly Copp which is just down the street from 19 Mile Brook Trailhead if anyone wants to join us the night before or the night after.

We start as a group, hike as a group, and finish as a group. Our pace will be that of the slowest hiker. This trip isn't for you if you are faster than the group and don't want to stay with us, if you want to head off on your own, or if you are slower than the group and expect us to constantly wait for you.

Guests are not permitted - all participants must be members of the Random Group of Hikers.

Dogs are not permitted on this hike.

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Trip Summary

On this slower/moderate pace (~1.5 MPH) round trip we will hike about 8.53 miles and climb about 3,288 feet - it should take an average hiker about 5 hours 55 minutes to complete this trip.  I am scheduling 8 hours so we can enjoy the trip and kick back on the summits.

This event is considered to be INTERMEDIATE because of the pace, distance, and elevation gain. We could alter our plans because of fatigue, weather, and/or other conditions and there is no guarantee that we will complete the entire event as described here (i.e. we might not reach the summit).

I did my research using the Appalachian Mountain Club's "White Mountain Guide", a trail map, and the Internet. You need to become self-reliant by becoming familiar with the route, terrain, and potential hazards since you are ultimately responsible for your own safety.

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Weather

Mountain weather is subject to rapid changes and extreme conditions. Dangerous weather conditions will cancel - I will post an update and/or send an email to all confirmed participants a day or two ahead of time. We will assess travel and weather conditions during the hike and make changes to our planned trip as necessary.

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Clothing, Gear, Equipment, and Supplies

Hiking safely is about being prepared so that you can respond to an emergency situation or spend a night in the woods if you have to. Failure to bring the basics puts you and the rest of the group at risk. If you don't know what to wear and/or bring with you or have any questions either refer to the list below or contact me.

Do not rely on others to have extra items to share with you at the meeting spot or on the trail. You should know how to use all of your equipment - test and adjust it prior to this trip.

If you don't have what you need you will not be allowed to participate - even if you carpooled with someone.

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Directions

We will be meeting at Nineteen Mile Brook Trailhead on the east side of Route 16 north of the Pinkham Notch Visitors Center. According to Google Maps this spot is about 158 miles from Boston and it should take about 3 hours 14 minutes to drive there. This is our ending spot - we will leave a couple of cars here and then drive south to where we will start our trip.

While carpooling is encouraged you are responsible for coordinating your own rides. Use the comments section below to communicate with others who may also be looking to share a ride. If you do share a ride be sure to share the expenses - suggested donations per person are $20 from Boston MA, $15 from Salem/Nashua NH, and $10 from Concord NH.

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Random Group of Hikers Disclaimer

As a condition of your voluntary participation in this activity you acknowledge and agree to the following: this activity involves inherent risks that can cause property damage, injury, illness, disability, and/or death to participants and/or others; you assume all risk associated with this activity; you are responsible for having the necessary knowledge, skills, abilities, clothing, and equipment to safely participate in this activity; you know and will follow the Hiker Responsibility Code; the organizer(s) of this activity are volunteers; and you release, hold harmless, and indemnify the organizer(s) and all members of this group from any and all claims for property damage, injury, illness, disability, and/or death - including those caused by negligence and/or other reasons.

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    • Kelly

      Thanks Gordon! Will definitely be getting one of these!

      June 3, 2013

    • Jim M.

      Thanks Gordon - it was a lifesaver!

      June 3, 2013

  • john b.

    Hi everyone, I had a wonderful time and a special thanks to Mai for keeping me awake on the way home.

    June 2, 2013

    • Mai C

      Hi John, thank you for driving! It was nice to meet you and hope to see you on your other hikes. Good luck on your race on Mt. Washington! :)

      June 2, 2013

  • Mai C

    Special thanks to John and Anne for hosting the hike and great meeting everyone! Hope to see you again another trail!

    1 · June 2, 2013

  • Alecia

    Hello everyone. I enjoyed hiking will all of you. Thanks for putting up with the incorporated date! It was a disaster! Talk about absolutely zero chemistry! many thanks to John and Anne, especially for the water!

    Dave, I liked the picture! I told you the backpack made all the difference!

    June 2, 2013

    • Ken M.

      Sorry the date didn't work out. : / Nice to meet you!

      June 2, 2013

  • Kelly

    Great hike as usual with the random group!! Thanks John (and Anne too!)...nice to meet everyone!

    June 2, 2013

  • Eric

    ....and definitely a big thanks to Anne for those cold waters at the end :-)!

    June 2, 2013

  • Eric

    Definitely a great day! Was great meeting everyone! See you all out there again!

    June 2, 2013

  • Gordon

    Great day .. Great group .. Great leadership .. Having our private cheering party (Anne) at the top of Wildcat D and with COLD water in hand at the parking lot just made the day all the better ..

    June 2, 2013

  • Dave

    Great day, and a great group of folks to hike with... and the bonus was arriving back to the vehicles and seeing Anne with cold water. Thanks so much all. Look forward to the next one.

    June 2, 2013

  • John (LAG) L.

    Thanks everyone hike a pulling together and making it a fun hike. The heat definitely had an effect on the difficulty. Gordon you and your pump were a life saver. There weren't enough other hikers to mug for their water. It was great meeting new people as always. See you on a Mountain!

    1 · June 2, 2013

  • Ken M.

    I heard from Over 40 that they started at 9:30. They also spotted the "RANDOM" John left in the mud. :)

    1 · June 1, 2013

  • Ken M.

    A challenging hike, but a great day! Thanks to John for leading, I like the way you do it. Nice to see some old friends and to meet new folks as well. I'm glad we had such a great central MA representation. :)

    1 · June 1, 2013

  • Beverly T.

    thanks everyone for a fun day!

    1 · June 1, 2013

  • john b.

    Hi,

    I don't mind carpooling, I will be leaving Northborough MA at 5 am to ensure I get there by 8:30. So, if you still need a ride I can certainly pick you up in concord. It would be nice to have company :)

    May 30, 2013

    • Kelly

      Yes I can meet you at the soloman pond mall at 5 am...thanks!

      May 31, 2013

    • john b.

      Kelly, we are meeting at the EMS store at 5 just before the mall. Call me if you get lost. [masked]

      1 · May 31, 2013

  • John (LAG) L.

    All, I'll be sending out an email later when I get to Pinkham. I need to check if the river is easily crossed at the Glen Boulder Trailhead. Stay tuned! If it is not I will update where we will carspot.

    May 31, 2013

    • John (LAG) L.

      Fairly easy crossing at Glen Ellis Trailhead. See everyone bright and early at 8:30am at 19 Mile Brook Trailhead.

      May 31, 2013

    • John (LAG) L.

      Anne and I are at #150 next to the river at Dolly Copp if anyone is interested in camping. You just need to pay $5 for parking.

      May 31, 2013

  • Beverly T.

    PS from Bev - I am going up on Sat morning. Kelly - are you planning to go up 16 or are you driving over to 93. If I don't hear from anyone else I can meet up with you - either in Newburyport to go up 16 or on 93 - at a park & ride near Hookset. Feel free to call me [masked]

    May 31, 2013

    • Kelly

      Sorry bev...Joined another carpool!

      May 31, 2013

  • Rebekah C.

    Sorry - I have to work now so I won't be able to make this hike.

    May 31, 2013

  • Beverly T.

    Hi this is Bev - I can meet anywhere on 93 - am leaving from Boston and can take 2 others. I will drive right home after the hike - if i stop for dinner it will be hard for me to get going again. Call my cell -[masked] if you want to join me.

    May 30, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    John, I made other plans. Thank you for the second chance. I will read my emails sooner and fill them out. Sorry for the extra hassle.

    May 30, 2013

  • Mai C

    Hi, I'm looking for a carpool in Salem or concord, :-). Please let me know, thank you :)

    May 30, 2013

    • Anne (.

      We have a little tent we can bring.

      May 30, 2013

    • Mai C

      Thank you Anne and Dave but I was really looking for a ride on Saturday. I can't get Friday off. :)

      May 30, 2013

  • Kelly

    Anybody interested in a Newburyport carpool? Message me...

    May 30, 2013

  • John (LAG) L.

    FYI: if you'd like to carpool reach out and email one or two of the other participants. There are a few people from Boston. Beverly said she could take two others. I usually go out for dinner after a hike. If you are going to join me be sure all in the carpool are in agreement. Since it's going to be a very nice day I believe parking will be packed.

    May 30, 2013

    • John (LAG) L.

      Ken, Anne and I are going up early Friday and staying at Dolly Copp. If you want to throw a tent up on our site you are welcome. It's about 3 minutes from 19 Mile Brook Trailhead.

      May 30, 2013

    • Ken M.

      John, thanks for the offer, I appreciate it. I've got other arrangements for that evening. :)

      May 30, 2013

  • John (LAG) L.

    All, We'll need to spot at least 3 cars at 19 Mile Brook Trail. Be there by 8:30 so we can pack into cars and drive over to Glen Ellis Trailhead which is a few hundred yards south of Pinkham Visitors Center. Try to carpool if you can. Cell phone service in the areas spotty and I'm camping at Dolly Copp. If you get to 19 Mile Brook Trail late, and do not see a Black Minivan with 12" Smiley Faces along the side, head for Glen Ellis Trailhead. I want to hit the Trail at 9am. The New England Over 40 is making the hike that day also so do not go jumping in their cars by mistake. It's happened!

    May 29, 2013

    • Gordon

      John .. If I understand correctly .. Plan is to park most cars at 19 Mile .. And then using only the minimum number cars required .. To carpool to the Glen Ellis TH where we will begin our hike .. Yes?!

      May 29, 2013

    • John (LAG) L.

      Kind of. If space is limited at 19 Mile we may look at keeping the minimum amount of cars there and driving the rest down to Glen Ellis.

      May 29, 2013

  • Jackie

    can't make it.... need to get the car serviced that mornng. Enjoy :)

    May 29, 2013

  • John (LAG) L.

    Weather for Saturday is a high of 74 at the summit. Conflicting reports between weather.com and noaa.gov. Weather.com indicates isolated thunderstorms. We will hike rain or shine. Thunderstorms in the area will change our planned route. Stay Tuned!

    May 28, 2013

    • Ken M.

      The latest from mountain-forecast: Clear, 20 mph winds, temps in the lower 60s. Looks like rain on Sunday, so hopefully that won't be pushed up. http://tinyurl.com/nl...­

      May 29, 2013

  • Elizabeth B.

    sorry, a work conflict developed.

    May 28, 2013

  • vika

    Sorry, my plans have changed. Unfortunately, I can't go.

    May 28, 2013

  • Jessica

    Is it an issue if my son comes on this? I know we have limits...we hike together and he had asked if he can go.

    May 5, 2013

    • Jessica

      K then count me out. He's an avid hiker I will change my RSVP

      May 7, 2013

    • Jessica

      He's not a "child" so to speak he's 13 anyway we will see you on the trail. As we will still be doing the same hike that day

      May 7, 2013

  • Elizabeth B.

    would like to take that spot that opened up!!

    April 24, 2013

  • Ken M.

    Note: The description says: "The plan is to climb three of the NH 4,000 Footers - Wildcat D (#37 on NH4K @ 4,070') and Wildcat A (#20 on NH4K @ 4,422')..." (should say two)

    April 23, 2013

    • John (LAG) L.

      Good catch! I copied my last years trip which hit Carter Dome. Not hitting the Dome this trip. Thanks

      April 24, 2013

  • Desiree

    Sorry, just realized I already have a hike with friends scheduled for this day!

    April 23, 2013

  • Jennifer

    Darn; will still be in Tulum...

    April 23, 2013

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