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Re: [atheists-518] Fwd: Half water, half gas = scam?

From: Louis C.
Sent on: Friday, July 4, 2008 1:08 PM

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Janelle Diters <[address removed]> wrote:
To my friends to whom i sent and email on the 'water/gas' possible solution. We are ripe for scam here and I'm afraid there will be many more to come. Please read the answer I received from one friend who did some research for me.

Be careful...its going to get worse.

In short, this water/gas thing is an obvious scam - it violates the laws of thermodynamics.  No one with an education that included some basic physiocal science should be taken in.  See for exposes of this and other cheap/free energy scams.

The latest is something called the Hydro Assist Fuel Cell.  It's not a
fuel cell as the rest of world uses the term; it's a kit to modify your
existing car.  It extracts a hydrogen-oxygen mixture from water and adds
it to your fuel, doubling your mpg.  The same people are now offering the
Pre-Ignition Catalytic Converter, PICC, to upgrade performance of the
HAFC.  Never mind the laws of thermodynamics, it's "based on scientific


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Katherine Roe <[address removed]>
Date: Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:56 PM
Subject: Half water, half gas = scam?
To: [address removed]

Hi Janelle, 

I'm afraid to post the link you sent me to the list because people will open it and it will spam them and possibly steal data from them. The way the site behaved when I visited it, plus the deceptive wording of the popups,  sent alarm bells ringing. This is a slimy way to run a site, which makes me feel the data on the site is also not legitimate. 

The site only sells you a book with instructions on how to make a device. You attach this to your car to create hydrogen on demand to mix with your fuel to increase efficiency. However, it may take more energy to produce the hydrogen gas than the amount of energy you get back by burning the hydrogen/fuel mixture. 

If you want you can post the two links I found below instead to the discussion board to get conversation started on the subject. They are non-slimy and most likely won't infect anyone's computers. Or you can post this entire letter, that would work too. 

I could not find any objective tests by Consumer reports, the EPA or my favorite for all things car related, AAA. 

Here's the best information I found on water for gas online:

This one is about Canadian Trucking companies that are using an after market device to make hydrogen on demand. They believe it works. However, what works for a semi running on diesel fuel may not work for a passenger car running on gas.

I doesn't work for _any_ vehicle.  The scammers may claim that Canadian trucking companies swear by it, but I'm sure that claim is as bogus as the rest of it.
Especially when the hydrogen gas in question is made from a questionable kit from a dubious book. 


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