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RE: [atheists-518] Christians Take Crucifixion to Kenyan Court

From: al h.
Sent on: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 9:13 AM
All you and your dissenting sidekick are doing
is proving that, when you have a contrarian attitude,
(generationally motivated)the comebacks are ENDLESS.
The time that Bennet spent on the internet for this
shows nothing other than a VORACIOUS  appetite for
debunking for debunking sake.That guy is obviously an
atheist for the wrong reason(a thing that's not rare
among our group.You'd be surprised how many atheists
turn to......ASTROLOGY!)F­ortunately i can answer you
w/ this 3 sentence reply and dismiss the subject as
--- Geoffrey Pierce <[address removed]> wrote:

> Well, if you go by every day experience we'd all be
> saying ain't.
> And the original point was, does it jibe with
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [address removed]
> [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of
> al hanamay
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11,[masked]:18 PM
> To: [address removed]
> Subject: Re: [atheists-518] Christians Take
> Crucifixion to Kenyan Court
> You've pulled this one out of your......In many
> decades i've never once heard the word "jive",when
> used consciously for purpose intended, to refer
> to anything but"meaningless banter,noise".Like
> "mantra".
> Otherwise the word jibe is useless because it's
> never
> used outside the context we're discussing i e to
> coincide. That's the only purpose of "jibe"
> Isn't everyday experience worth anything?
> --- Bennett Lewis <[address removed]> wrote:
> --------------------­-------------
> Al,
> Interesting assumption, since the word "jive" is
> basically a derivativeof "jibe," sharing much
> meaning.
>  "Jive" also means to "dance orswing," and it is
> occasionally used as a metaphor in "How does it
> swingwith...?" or "How does it dance with...?"
> The word "jive" may be informal, but is certainly is
> correct.
> B
> al hanamay wrote:  
> The word "jive" is incorrect. Jibe is short for a
> wordthat means to coincide with. Yes, i know, we
> getthe connection anyway but it's a good policy IN
> LONG RUN to get it right.That's why you lockyour
> door
> EVERYTIME and not just when you feel like it---
> Geoffrey Pierce <[address removed]>
> wrote:--------------­-------------------H­ow does it
> jive with part one ofwww.zeitgeistmovie­.com? You can
> watch it here:­ Geoffrey
--------------------­-------------From:[a­ddress removed][mailto:athe­ist
> [address removed]]
> On Behalf Of tomfahlandSent: Tuesday, September 11,
>[masked]:36 AMTo: [address removed]: Re:
> [atheists-518]Christ­ians Take Crucifixionto Kenyan 
> Court Hey all A little unrelated. I just finished
> reading the"Goddelusion", good read, alot of
> research
> went intoit with plenty of otherbooks to read
> mentioned in it.  TomConway Redding
> <[address removed]>wrote:Ja­cqueline, Many years ago
> a
> college chum of minenamed RussellTansey, who had
> become a lawyer, did file suit in
> SanFranciscoagainst
> "God, and/or His earthlyrepresentativ­e(s)" for
> thedevastation caused bycenturies of natural
> disasters, or so-called "actsofGod."  As you might
> imagine, he did not prevail. Conway Redding  In a
> message dated 9/10/2007 3:33:18 P.M.PacificDaylight
> Time, [address removed] writes:I just had a
> brilliant idea:  I'm going to sue "The Church" for
> wrongful death andtorture ofthousands during the
> various inquisitions,heresy hearings, crusades and
> witchhunts!Anybody know a good lawyer? Jacqueline   
> -----Original Message ----From: Nic LaGatta
> <[address removed]>To: [address removed]:
> Sunday, September 9,[masked]:09:01 PMSubject: Re:
> [atheists-518] Christians TakeCrucifixion to Kenyan
> CourtI hold this to the same regard as those people
> whodress up in black capes andpretend to be vampires
> onthe weekends, or those people who obsess
> overHarryPotter or Lord of the Rings, or Mormons,
> theyjust never had a chance. On 9/9/07, Joe
> Hewlett<[address removed]>wrote: News of the
> weird from the Christianworld.  This is not an
> e-mail
> hoax. You can viewthe originalarticle
> at:http://www.monito...­ You
> just can't make this stuff up. Itwill be hilariousto
> watch how it plays out. 
> --------------------­-------------News | September 8,
> 2007 Christian group takes Italy,Israelto court over
> deathof Jesus ChristNATION TEAMNairobiA society of
> Christians has filed an unprecedentedcase in Kenya
> seeking aconstitutional interpretationof the trial,
> sentencing and punishment or deathofJesus Christ. On
> August 29, 2007, the Friends of Jesus, actingthrough
> Mr. Dola Indidis, aChristian, lawyer and alsothe
> spokesman for the Judiciary,filed a petition inthe
> Constitutional  Court in Nairobiagainst the Statesof
> Italy and Israeland a host of characters featuredin
> biblical accounts of the events leading
> toJesus'crucifixion.­ Among the respondents listed
> areTiberius, the Emperor of Romeat the time;
> PontiusPilate, the Governorof Judea; the Jewish
> Chief
> Priest;Jewish Elders; Jewish Teachers of the Lawand
> KingHerod. Kenya Civil Liberties Union has
> joinedproceedings as amicuscuriae (friend of the
> court). The advocate for the plaintiff, Michael
> Chemwok fromChemwok & CoAdvocates, Nairobi,filed a
> certificate ofurgency on August 30 in the
> Constitutional Court. Hejustified theurgency by
> arguing that the applicationseeks to challenge the
> abuses used incriminalprosecutio­ns. He also seeks to
> show that the origin of these abuses,which if
> unresolved todate, undermine the proprietyand
> dignity
> of courts worldwide and condone,withoutredre­ss,
> malicious prosecution and judicial misconductin the
> trial,conviction and sentencing of Jesus Christas
> portrayed in the books of Exodus,Leviticus
> andDeuteronomy in the Holy Bible, the Holy Torah
> and/orexistingRoman laws.The Petitioners are
> challenging the mode ofquestioning used during trial
> andsentensing of JesusChrist of Nazareth, the form
> of
> punishment metedoutagainst him and the substance of
> the informationused to convict him. They
> alsochallenge
> the law thatwas used to convict him and claim that
> the
> trial wasanullity in law because all proceedings in
> the RomanCourts in 42 BC-37 AD"did not conform to
> the
> rule atthe material time". The urgency of the
> petition
> is founded on the need toestablish that a wrongwas
> meted out to Jesus Christ ofNazareth and address it
> since it is an issueof utmostimportance to all
> Christians and which has sparked aferventreligious
> debate in and outside of the country.They add that
> it
> is also an issue that affects allcourts, parliaments
> andsanctifiable places where theBible is sworn by.
> Through a three judge bench,thepetitioners­ requested
> that the Republicof Italy andthe State of Israel
> beserved through their respectiveconsuls and
> ambassadors to Kenya for their failure tointercede
> and
> correctthese matters and incorporationof the laws
> from
> the Roman Empire, which were appliedduring the trial
> of Jesus, into theircurrent laws. They request that
> all documentation be forwarded tothe International
> CriminalCourts registry fordetermination under the
> Roman Statutes. The records oftheBible have stood
> for
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