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Re: [php-49] FINALLY! A new home/location for the Seattle PHP Meetup group!

From: Kris C.
Sent on: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 4:49 PM
@Eric Ian can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the $300 is the total amount he's looking to raise from our combined donations; i.e. not $300 per person.

--Kris


On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Eric Harris <[address removed]> wrote:
Hey Guys,

I have not had the chance of making a meeting yet, because I live like 4 hours away. However, the 2nd Thursdays of the month, make that a much easier item to handle and do.

But, I do have a question about the Membership fee. I have no problems with a membership fee, I think that is a great idea, and forces a commitment to the group. However, I know I am unable to afford $300, are their other options or another way that I might be able to contribute?

Thanks.

-- Eric

Sr. Software Engineer
ZCE ~ Zend Certified Engineer



On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Ian Maddox <[address removed]> wrote:
This is a great question.  The donations are a one-time thing.  We believe in what SURF is doing and want to show our appreciation for what they are doing for us.  To that end, we are purchasing Founding Member Sponsorships.  David and I have already purchased one sponsorship at the founding member level on behalf of Seattle PHP and we are now asking the membership at large to help out and buy another.

This is not the start of an annual pledge drive and we have no other need to ask the membership for funds in the foreseeable future.

Cheers,

--Ian

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Joel Simpson <[address removed]> wrote:

is that $300 a yearly fee or monthly fee?

On Mar 21,[masked]:19 PM, "David Malouf" <[address removed]> wrote:
Whew.  I don't think Ian nor I had any idea how much of a pain it is to try to get companies to give free space, after hours, to a group of unknown, non-membership driven, sans-insurance, somehow-related-by-a-"language"(?!) traditionally anti-social programmers.  Who need free WiFi (but don't be afraid of us hacking, even though we are programmers...)  Huh.  So weird (ha!).

But Ian did it.  In fact, this new 'location' is more than that.  This is a real win-win in my opinion.  In conjunction with member Seaton Gras, we are going to be meeting at Surf Incubator located at 2nd Ave. & Marion St. 

Member Seaton Gras has taken Surf Incubator to a whole new level and acquired a huge space in the "Exchange Building" (8th floor, 821 2nd Ave., Seattle, WA  98104) -- roughly in between Pike Place Market and the stadiums.  Part of this ginormous floor is a meeting area that we're going to be using.  Restaurants o-plenty, parking garage (if you wish) as well as free-after-6pm and free-after-7pm street-parking nearby.  2nd & Marion also being a pretty major Public Transit stop (something like 15 bus lines stop there).  We're pretty excited.

Plus, Surf Incubator is a good thing in-itself!  From the About page, Surf Incubator was created "as a way to provide mentorship and meeting space for startups launching technology focused businesses."  Yay!

Now, for the first time ever, I'm going to ask you for money.  Here's why / here's what Ian and I have been thinking...
  + We have found some places that will let us use space, but we can't secure an ongoing space without becoming a member or paying some kind of money to keep 'the spot.'  Example, last month we met at The Easy (huge thanks to Founders Co-Op and TechStars) for free.  But they need that room during "startup season" and cannot guarantee a monthly time-and-day slot.  Very reasonable, to be sure, but not what we are needing.  Other places would let us use a space, but only if we become 'members' - including membership dues (never less than $300/year).
  + We'd really like to secure a consistent location that is easy to get to, easy to be at (parking, etc.), AND has more social benefits (namely: food/drink nearby).  More on this in a future email.
  + Both Ian and I like the idea that any money paid into using Surf Incubator will be used to help businesses other/more than just Surf Incubator.  Feels more like an investment than a payment.
  + We are both keenly aware that there are all kinds of potential, nasty issues with giving money to a group member, incubator, ... anyone.  To-date, this is a big part of at least my thinking as to why we don't do anything that costs money.  Favoritism, 'politics', drama... bleh.  (plus totally-free is always nice!)

We've never been able to accomplish both of the first two ideas concurrently.  Adding the third idea has lead Ian and I to feel like this is the right place at the right time - overriding our fourth idea/concern.

So here's the ask.  A "Charter Membership" is $300.  I'm going to tell you right up front, Ian and I are willing to pay the whole thing.  However, we'd like to ask if y'all would be willing to help with the cost - or if you're so inclined, help invest in Surf Incubator.  If so, please use PayPal and send however much you wish to the account Ian setup: [address removed]
  + go here to do the send-money thing, unless you have a PayPal account already, at which point you probably know what to do:

Here's how the money part works.  $300 is going to Surf Incubator ('cause Ian and I will pay that no matter what).  Any money that comes in over that amount will also go to Surf Incubator.  We will always tell you exactly how much money has come in.  To that end, we will always do whatever we haven't thought of yet to make sure there is 100% transparency with anything having to do with money (cf. fourth idea/concern above).

NOTE: I know this is fast, but we are wanting to finish this 'money drive' by end-of-day March 28 (that's a Wednesday)


On a fun note, Surf Incubator is doing an Open House from 11am to 7pm every day from March 22 to April 2.  Feel free to just go check it out.

Lastly, in case you didn't see the changes made in our Meetup.com page - we are 'moving' to the SECOND TUESDAY of each month.  More than one of y'all have stated that first-week Meetups are a pain.  At each of the last few Meetups (6 or so), we've asked if 2nd Tuesday would be problematic and got only one "maybe" (the rest where "no problem").


PLEASE feel free to contact me directly with any thoughts or issues... or just congratulations (ha).  I may not answer right away as I do have a full-time job :-)

David Malouf, also on behalf of Ian Maddox
 [address removed]
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