Bob et al,
You'll notice that this Meetup group leans towards NetBeans as far as free, cross-platform IDEs. Visual Studio gets quite a few votes but me-thinks the Microsoft users are nervous to say so (haha). Further, a number of folks around here are not full-time/PHP-only so using something quick-and-dirty for PHP works just fine for them.
Personally, I used a text-editor with a PHP plug-in (Notepad++ on Windows) while I was trying to use Eclipse. Enjoyed Eclipse, but found NetBeans to be faster, easier -- both Eclipse and NetBeans have a ton more features than I need. As of NetBeans 6.5 (or 6.7?), sftp is now included. NetBeans, from what I've read, is the 'easiest' of the installs as it comes with SVN, sftp, and other features built-in.
Plug-ins for NetBeans is mainly centralized (vs. Eclipse) which means fewer plug-ins (although they do have a TON of useful ones) but they install more easily than Eclipse.
My suggestion: start with NetBeans. Once you 'get it', look into Eclipse if it has some features you want -- they two programs are pretty similar in their basic usage.
As to Mahalie's issue... bummer! I found NetBeans loads quite a bit faster than Eclipse but, if I read it all correctly, they are both running on a Java 'platform' (ex. one of the NetBeans install downloads is a JDK + NetBeans combo). It seems that this scenario makes for slower load-times. My NetBeans install loads in about 10-15 seconds - too long, but it makes me SUCH a better programmer!!
My 2.5 cents (1.25 from me, 1.25 from the free resources I have read/received from others),
From: mahalie <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Wednesday, September 9,[masked]:11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [php-49] PHP IDEs
I tried NetBeans and it seemed to take FOREVER to load up...could it be my enviro? Or is just the nature of this java app?
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Mark Steudel <[address removed]>
Oh one of thethings I really liked about aptana is that has FTP syncro functionality like dreamweaver, I can't remeber if netbeans has that or not. Aptana is also free.
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On Sep 9, 2009, at 8:09 AM, Bob Albert <[address removed]> wrote:
I'm newish to PHP programing and trying to get much deeper into it.
I've been doing PHP dev on a Mac using BBEdit but I keep seeing things
in books about PHP IDEs and being asked in job interviews what IDE i
us so I'm thinking of moving to something.
Is a PHP IDE that more helpful for coding and debugging? It sounds
If so, what is a good one to try/use on Macintosh?
I know this will be a hot topic but i've heard of Eclipse but are
there others that are better for PHP?