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Re: [skeptics-137] On killing

From: cole m.
Sent on: Friday, January 25, 2013 6:03 AM
Interesting points, Steve. Lots to think about.  

You asked before how I feel now.  At least I think that is what you asked. I haven't felt this good in the last 10 years since I eliminated meat from my diet 7 months ago. I also eat a lot more vegetables, fruits and nuts  -hardly any junk food, actually none in the last couple of months. I slowed down on bread, potatoes and rice though I continue to eat these. I have a lot more energy and have lost over 50lbs over the last two years.  I lost over 30 lbs in the last year. A year ago I was eating meat perhaps 5 or 6 times a week out of 21 meals a week. This has been a gradual experience for me. I enjoy it.

Cole


From: Steve J <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Friday, January 25,[masked]:11 AM
Subject: RE: [skeptics-137] On killing

Accidentally pushed send....
125 bushels (or more) of corn, which could feed more people than the
one cow. The argument against eating meat, as I understand it, is a
matter of economics. You get more calories per acre from putting it
under plow than you get from eating the cow you grazed on the same
acre.
It would be interesting to see how much life is lost and how you'd
balance the life of one worm vs. one rabbit. I'm not sure how one
would quantify misery or suffering. For myself, it comes down to
preventing or alleviating human suffering, all else is secondary.

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve J
Sent: 1/25/2013 4:29 AM
To: [address removed]
Subject: RE: [skeptics-137] On killing




The common practice is to graze cattle at one per acre. That same acre
could produce 125
That's what I was taught as a child, not sure that it has changed much.




From: Anna Smith
Sent: 1/24/2013 2:59 PM
To: [address removed]
Subject: [skeptics-137] On killing





I have been thinking about the idea of not killing animals for food,
and I started wondering how many living things are killed when
farming. A lot of times, the ground has to be burned first. Who knows
how many animals that kills. Then the ground is tilled. I don't know
figures, nor want to look them up, on how many insects, spiders,
snakes, moles, mice, and baby bunnies there are in each acre of land,
but i'm sure it is in the thousands. And then pesticides....unless you
eat only organic. And more are killed when the crops are harvested. Is
the life of a worm as valuable as the life of a cow? Or a snake or
baby bunny as valuable as a chicken? Isn't it better, in the end, to
kill the biggest things? That way less life is lost to feed more
people.
(A bit tongue-in-cheek, but with a hint of seriousness.)






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