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Re: [skeptics-137] Did the historical Jesus exist

From: Kansas City S.
Sent on: Wednesday, April 3, 2013 5:36 AM
The concept of being born of a virgin in religion can be very nicely viewed from evolutionary prospective and there is a wealth of information on it in the real world. 

There is a deeply psychological and appears to be a deeply biological meaning to spreading the semen by males and having babies of your own DNA. The only way in the ancient Bilical world to assure that was to have a virgin for wife and this is a clear theme in the Bile and curren tobsession of the Christian fundies has roots in that. Scientifc literature is replete with studies of  altruism expressed onto your own offsprings and also your own offsprings expressnig same to their parents. 

Now there are studies in plants (I posted recently one and just heard about another one conducted in Canada) where parents plants are relesing nutrients into soil from their root system bacterial bulbs in higher % when other neighboring plants are children vs. non related plants of the same species. Hypothesis are presented htat this is chemically connected somehow, in short, related plants have some similar chemicals released and detect them.

The same is known in bacteria, same species of bacteria tend to congregate in same areas and bacteria that are cloned would tend to fend off non related bacteria of the same species.


On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 12:58 AM, David <[address removed]> wrote:
The answer is probably not I.e. It is low probability. I finished Proving History: Bayes's Theorem and the Quest for the historical Jesus by Richard Carrier. I am still reading Nailed: Ten Christian Myths That Show Jesus Never Existed At All by David Fitzgerald.
I hadn't given it much thought in the past, now I don't think that the Jesus of the Bible existed; maybe 10% for. Note that the English name Jesus is a cognate of the Hebrew name Joshua, of which there are and were  many. So, I am sure that there were many Joshuas, and some of them probably tried to start a cult. But, most of the Biblical Joshua things, such as born of a virgin are simply myth, made up after the fact to conform with prophecy and to keep up with other myths of the time. Born of a human virgin was very popular for gods of that time.
DaveN 






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