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Re: [webmapsocial] Neighborhood Question

From: brett h.
Sent on: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:32 AM
My preference is the Flickr/Yahoo implementation: they have released  
their neighborhood alpha shapes under the Creative Commons Zero Waiver  
(http://www.flickr...­). Combined with  
Yahoo's WOE IDs (http://developer....­), also a public  
dataset under the Creative Commons Attribution License, which includes  
parent IDs, adjacent IDs and aliases, it becomes a really powerful  
tool. It works in conjunction with GeoNames (http:// 
www.geonames.org/), and Flickr's reverse geocoder API (http://www.flickr...­ 
)

More on alpha shapes: http://code.flick...­ 
  and http://code.flick...­

Hope this helps,
Brett


On Jul 30, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Dale Larson wrote:

> I agree that Dolores Park isn?t a neighborhood but remember that ? 
> neighborhoods? are abstract and subjective notions.  There are no  
> hard and fast neighborhood boundaries as they are subject to change  
> and interpretation.  There are no ?official? neighborhood  
> definitions, to my knowledge.  But agreed, quality matters, so be  
> careful in selecting the right dataset.
>
>
>
> In fact, from a user perspective, what the boundary of a  
> neighborhood is may be context-dependent and overlapping. And  
> neighborhoods are only one type of region that are natural to users  
> but don't appear on many maps (and for some contexts, should).
>
> What about East Bay?  Bay Area?  Northern California? (or Greater  
> Seattle and Eastern/Western Washington, for examples from another  
> region?)
>
> What about places that are within easy reach via biking, driving,  
> walking or public transport -- each of those is much more complex  
> than X miles as the crow flies, but is a very logical search  
> criteria.  Within San Francisco, some neighborhood boundaries mean  
> little to reachability (i.e., SOMA and Financial District), others  
> are a much bigger deal (i.e. Castro and the Haight).
>
> What interfaces exist now that account for these kinds of issues?
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Jonathan
>
> Jonathan Cardella
> Chief Executive Officer
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> From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed] 
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> Subject: [webmapsocial] Neighborhood Question
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>
> I am looking for information on the best way to implement  
> neighborhoods on my new website, Fido Factor.  We launched three  
> weeks ago for San Francisco and populated our neighborhoods  
> manually.  We are now expanding nationally and need to figure out  
> how to automate this process.  We have tried both the Google and  
> Urban Mapping neighborhood data but have found that there are some  
> random, incorrect, or unused neighborhood names.  For example, in  
> Google Buena Vista Park and Dolores Park are listed as their own  
> neighborhoods.
>
> Basically when a user enters a new location we want to determine the  
> neighborhood based on the address or coordinates we add later.  We  
> also want a corresponding full neighborhood listing for the city  
> landing page.
>
> Does anyone have suggestions on the best way to populate & validate  
> this information for new cities, especially ones we are unfamiliar  
> with?
>
> Regards,
>
> Garrett Dodge
> Fido Factor
> www.fidofactor.com
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