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Re: [webmapsocial] Neighborhood Question

From: user 7.
Sent on: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:35 AM
I would also recommend Maponics (see http://www.maponics.com/Neighborhood_Boundaries/neighborhood_boundaries.html).? They have pretty good neighborhood boundaries for thousands of cities.? They do charge, however.

James

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On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Dale Larson <[address removed]> wrote:

I agree that Dolores Park isn?t a neighborhood but remember that ?neighborhoods? are abstract and subjective notions.? There are no hard and fast neighborhood boundaries as they are subject to change and interpretation.? There are no ?official? neighborhood definitions, to my knowledge.? But agreed, quality matters, so be careful in selecting the right dataset.


In fact, from a user perspective, what the boundary of a neighborhood is may be context-dependent and overlapping. And neighborhoods are only one type of region that are natural to users but don't appear on many maps (and for some contexts, should). ?

What about East Bay? ?Bay Area? ?Northern California??(or Greater Seattle and Eastern/Western Washington, for examples from another region?)

What about places that are within easy reach via biking, driving, walking or public transport -- each of those is much more complex than X miles as the crow flies, but is a very logical search criteria. ?Within San Francisco, some neighborhood boundaries mean little to reachability (i.e., SOMA and Financial District), others are a much bigger deal (i.e. Castro and the Haight). ? ?
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What interfaces exist now that account for these kinds of issues?

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Best Regards,

Jonathan

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From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Garrett
Sent: Thursday, July 30,[masked]:48 AM
To: [address removed]
Subject: [webmapsocial] Neighborhood Question

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I am looking for information on the best way to implement neighborhoods on my new website, Fido Factor.? We launched three weeks ago for San Francisco and populated our neighborhoods manually.? We are now expanding nationally and need to figure out how to automate this process.? We have tried both the Google and Urban Mapping neighborhood data but have found that there are some random, incorrect, or unused neighborhood names.? For example, in Google Buena Vista Park and Dolores Park are listed as their own neighborhoods.?

Basically when a user enters a new location we want to determine the neighborhood based on the address or coordinates we add later.? We also want a corresponding full neighborhood listing for the city landing page.?

Does anyone have suggestions on the best way to populate & validate this information for new cities, especially ones we are unfamiliar with??

Regards,

Garrett Dodge
Fido Factor
www.fidofactor.com




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