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Re: [webmapsocial] Neighborhood Question

From: David L.
Sent on: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:36 AM
This might be too high level for what you want, but there's a good
story about how the LA Times tried to solve this problem for their
news reporting:

http://www.latime...­

-Dave

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:29, Brian Hamlin<[address removed]> wrote:
> You can also contact a group around UC Berkeley
> there is a guy there who pioneered a lot of this stuff
> they have data, too.. better quality for a lot of uses
> Bernt Wahl ?[address removed]
> if you dont care about coverage and quality much
> the Zillow set is free
> best regards
> ??-Brian
> ===============
> Brian Hamlin
> OSGeo California Chapter
> (415)[masked] cell
>
> On Jul 30, 2009, at 10:42 AM, James wrote:
>
> I would also recommend Maponics (see
> http://www.maponi...­).
> They have pretty good neighborhood boundaries for thousands of cities.? They
> do charge, however.
>
> James
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> James Nicholson / CEO & founder
> YourStreet
> www.yourstreet.com
> direct:[masked]
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Dale Larson <[address removed]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree that Dolores Park isn?t a neighborhood but remember that
>>> ?neighborhoods? are abstract and subjective notions.? There are no hard and
>>> fast neighborhood boundaries as they are subject to change and
>>> interpretation.? There are no ?official? neighborhood definitions, to my
>>> knowledge.? But agreed, quality matters, so be careful in selecting the
>>> right dataset.
>>
>> In fact, from a user perspective, what the boundary of a neighborhood is
>> may be context-dependent and overlapping. And neighborhoods are only one
>> type of region that are natural to users but don't appear on many maps (and
>> for some contexts, should).
>> What about East Bay? ?Bay Area? ?Northern California??(or Greater Seattle
>> and Eastern/Western Washington, for examples from another region?)
>> What about places that are within easy reach via biking, driving, walking
>> or public transport -- each of those is much more complex than X miles as
>> the crow flies, but is a very logical search criteria. ?Within San
>> Francisco, some neighborhood boundaries mean little to reachability (i.e.,
>> SOMA and Financial District), others are a much bigger deal (i.e. Castro and
>> the Haight).
>>
>> What interfaces exist now that account for these kinds of issues?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> Jonathan Cardella
>>> Chief Executive Officer
>>> [address removed]
>>>
>>> Work:[masked]
>>> Mobile:[masked]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]]
>>> On Behalf Of Garrett
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 30,[masked]:48 AM
>>> To: [address removed]
>>> Subject: [webmapsocial] Neighborhood Question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am looking for information on the best way to implement neighborhoods
>>> on my new website, Fido Factor.? We launched three weeks ago for San
>>> Francisco and populated our neighborhoods manually.? We are now expanding
>>> nationally and need to figure out how to automate this process.? We have
>>> tried both the Google and Urban Mapping neighborhood data but have found
>>> that there are some random, incorrect, or unused neighborhood names.? For
>>> example, in Google Buena Vista Park and Dolores Park are listed as their own
>>> neighborhoods.
>>>
>>> Basically when a user enters a new location we want to determine the
>>> neighborhood based on the address or coordinates we add later.? We also want
>>> a corresponding full neighborhood listing for the city landing page.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have suggestions on the best way to populate & validate this
>>> information for new cities, especially ones we are unfamiliar with?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Garrett Dodge
>>> Fido Factor
>>> www.fidofactor.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
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