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Animal Rights

Animal rights is the idea that some or all non-human animals are entitled to the possession of their own lives, and that their most basic interests--such as an interest in not suffering--should be afforded the same consideration as the similar interests of human beings.

Critics of animal rights argue that animals are not able to enter into a social contract, so they cannot possess rights; the philosopher Roger Scruton writes that because only humans have duties, only humans can have rights.

That's a brief summary of the pro and con positions on animal rights. Join us for a lively discussion of the issue!

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  • Brian

    You guys weren't kidding!
    https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/482358_10151590166783628_945812123_n.jpg

    By the way, Joe, Dalai Lama is a meat-eater. It is also internet-confirmed.

    1 · March 24, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    http://www.consciousness.arizona.edu
    so many of the topics today are discussed in the two texts "Toward a Science of Consciousness (I & II) that I wanted to post the link in case others want to further explore (see pg 545 " toward a science of animal consciousness")
    Thanks for a very interesting meet up Patty! Hope to see all of you again.

    1 · March 24, 2013

  • Andrea

    Great topic and really interesting conversation. Thanks, Patty!

    March 24, 2013

  • faith

    drat--woke up with a cold and don't want to share it with the group.

    March 24, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Sorry Group! Something is wrong with the R6 Norristown Train! I am so very mad now and I wish you all the very best!

    March 24, 2013

    • Patty

      Sorry, Brice, but if they get the Norristown up and running, you're still welcome!

      1 · March 24, 2013

    • Andrea

      Hope to see you at another one soon, Brice!

      March 24, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Sorry Group! Something is going on with the R6 Norristown Train! Got to the train station at 8:35 for the 8:46 ride and found out that there was a bus substitution and the ride was delayed! Would've gotten down there late anyways! I'm so mad that I was close to being at my very first meeting! Better luck next time I suppose! Have Fun! :-) :-(

    March 24, 2013

  • Elizabeth

    Tried lightening my hair to natural and it turned a terrible orange. Can't go anywhere except to a hair dresser next week. Sorry. Would have loved to go. Next time.

    1 · March 23, 2013

  • Will B.

    Sorry about last minute was called for a.m. coverage at work
    Hope all goes well

    March 23, 2013

  • Will B.

    Is anyone from PETA coming? I would venture to say that we treat animals very much as we treat each other with the exception of those of us who have trouble coping with the complexity of other humans. Maybe there should have been an advert for jains or at least a few Buddhists to offer a fresh face to what could be another episode of rational "gridlock" as regards the sources and justifications for any set of "rights" for any "one" or "thing"?

    March 19, 2013

    • CJ F.

      The way in which we have treated animals and the way in which we treat other people has changed a lot over history. The Roman Arena frequently had human-human fights to the death. Not much different from cock fighting to bull fighting. Something has changed over the last century or so: for the first time in history animal rights have been enshrined in our legal system (to some extent at least). Why?

      March 20, 2013

    • Brian

      I think animal rights came from the country that America was at war with when they wrote that Bill of Rights. Even the SPCA, like the Boy Scouts, was not an American invention, but flowed down from the UK.

      March 21, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Do we have to read anything before we come to this meetup?

    March 11, 2013

    • Patty

      No, Brice. Just come with ideas!

      1 · March 20, 2013

    • A former member
      A former member

      Great, Patty! Thanks! Can't wait to attend my very first meeting!

      March 20, 2013

  • CJ F.

    If anyone is interested in a double-header animal weekend, there is a discussion on The Past and Future of Human-Animal Relationships on Saturday also at 10:30 and also at Starbucks. You can RSVP for that event here: http://www.meetup.com/thinkingsociety/events/103375562/

    March 19, 2013

  • Will B.

    1 · March 19, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Looks like the time is incorrect, PM rather than AM.

    March 4, 2013

    • Katie

      thanks we fixed that

      March 4, 2013

    • Patty

      Thanks, Katie, I missed that. And thanks Jane, too!

      March 5, 2013

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  • Katie
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  • Brian
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  • Lee D.
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  • Elaine
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  • Tee C.
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  • Andrea
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  • A former member
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