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The Cult of Celebrity and Its Effect on Society

  • Dec 2, 2012 · 10:30 AM
  • Capriccio's

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  • Brian

    I very much like the Capriccio's location. I like the big windows. And the group size of 15 is pretty much at the upper bound of tolerable/pleasant enough. When I see the other tables and there is one person eating, or drinking coffee, I am grateful that they accept us there gabbing away. When we are there we have coffee or pastry, or both, and it is very pleasant. I think thought that the discussion, "Do we need government?" can use the various internecine hostilities over venue, replete with threats of revolution, pleas for order, and condemnation of others for past and future behavior as an example. Did we need the organizer?

    November 29, 2012

  • Anthony

    Thank you for the responses. The comments made by Patty make sense. In addition, I think when a group meeting becomes too large it can evolve into an atmosphere that may prove to be difficult for an individual to have their voice heard. I have found much more enjoyment from small intimate-sized group discussions (in most avenues of life, not just for intellectual conversations) as opposed to larger groups where discussions start to feel like a seminar or lecture.

    November 29, 2012

  • Jean S.

    Patty - Expect lots of bickering when "thinkers" are involved. The trick is to not let the descent bother you. You can please some of the people some of the time and some of the people none of the time. It goes with leadership to let it roll off of your back. The group has parameters.............everything in life has rules. You are doing God's work by herding the cats.

    November 29, 2012

  • Jean S.

    Another thing that I have noticed is that some of the attendees do not patronize the cafe. Thus far with the doors open I have not noticed the other tables being full so Sunday morning is a good time. With cold weather coming and the necessity of closing the doors, the inside space may be more at a premium. It is a dilemma to have so many people that are interested that some are turned away. I find that I can't wait until Sunday morning to know if there is space for me or not. But, I am willing to keep trying to get a space. I haven't bothered to sign up for this waitlist because there are too many people on the list ahead of me. It is a good topic and it is my loss that there is no space for me. Bah humbug!

    November 29, 2012

  • Charlotte W.

    Thank you so much for the complete reply, appreciated.

    I had a discussion group in town for 10 years.

    I rented space in churches around town...a zillion x better than a coffee shop.

    Never saw a table on Sunday am w/more than 1 person usually a cup of coffee & reading a newspaper.or people going to restroom.

    The Sunday w/the Puerto Rican Day parade, I left early.. heard the outside noise by the window better than the discussion

    Shame good people, wonderful topics & you do not get the full benefit because that place is not condusive to conversation, especially an intelligent one.

    The other coffeeshop, seats by the window....at least it was quiet.
    Michael was the leader, several years ago, around 15th or 16 th st.
    Much better than Capricco.

    November 28, 2012

  • Charlotte W.

    Been to many groups..& NEVER have all the people showed that said they were

    I agree w/JEAN S. let's start table #2

    November 27, 2012

    • Patty

      Hi everyone, I'll be hosting this discussion, and I concur with what Katie has said here. Our practice has been that if people on the waiting list show up and all of the "Yes" RSVPs show up, the waiting list people agree to move away. No-shows have been an ongoing issue, so we ask that if you are listed as attending, please change that so that people on the waiting list can join in.

      November 28, 2012

    • Patty

      I appreciate the suggestions people are making, but it would result in chaos if we were to start making decisions based on what everyone is saying here. Those of us who have been the organizer, the assistant organizers, and the hosts base our practices on how these meet-ups have been going for years.

      November 28, 2012

  • Charlotte W.

    Perhaps the 'wait list" could show up & be silent.....(LOL)
    sit @ a nearby table & fill in for the no shows.

    This is a good topic & could be one helluva discussion w/the good talkers!!

    November 27, 2012

  • Charlotte W.

    Politiicans have their own celebrity.
    Most not deserving & many famous for being famous & doing embarrassing things..that topic alone could fill 2 tables

    November 27, 2012

  • Jean S.

    The waitlist is a wait list and it is frustrating for those of us that can't get in. My suggestion is - let's talk about it online before the meetup. Where the difficulty is is that people sign up and then don't show up. The group is held to about 15 people because of space. There is a chance that a few on the waitlist will get in at the last minute... My suggestion would be a second table for discussion but that would undercut the organizer. It is a dilemma!

    November 27, 2012

  • Anthony

    How stringent is the quantity of people at this venue? Would it be okay for people on the wait list to join in on this discussion?

    November 27, 2012

  • Jean S.

    Interesting topic. I would maybe tweak it to the Cult of Fame. Celebrity suggests celebrated as a positive. There are many famous people that are not worthy of being celebrated. I would ask "Which famous person would you walk across the street to see?" And, who would you not walk across the street to see? "If you meet Buddha on the road, kill him." No man is a god...

    November 12, 2012

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