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Craving a midweek reset? Slide into Burgers, Board Games & Chill - our weekly Tuesday night hangout where the buns are toasted, the vibes are relaxed, and the conversation’s always juicy. ​We’ve added **11** new board games — come by, play a few rounds, and help with new ideas! ​Check the latest burger review from Daniel Food Diary > **[https://danielfooddiary.com/2025/05/15/opensourced](https://danielfooddiary.com/2025/05/15/opensourced)** ​ Come solo or bring a friend. It’s low-pressure, good food, and great company — perfect if you’re new in town, working nearby, or just need a breather from the grind. **Venue:** Open Sourced **Website:** [www.opensourced.so](http://www.opensourced.so) **Date:** Tuesday **Time:** 6.30pm-9pm **Location:** 10A Perak Road, Singapore 208131 **Bonus:** Free tatter tots upgrade with every burger

Evening coffee/tea session followed by dinner later, to meet new friends, exchange and share different cultures in a group event - group experience sharing is one of the best way to know your new friends ;-) Hey everyone, we will be at the the tables right in front of the Old Chang Kee, at the outdoors! Hope to see you soon! Closest MRT is Bugis and City Hall. Event Etiquette: • Please understand that this is not a business networking group, and please don't sell MLM (multi level marketing) here. You may still exchange numbers but it will be at your own discretion. • The organizer has the right to ban members from attending events and from the group.

We'll walk from Hillview MRT Exit A towards Diary Farm Carpark B, Wallace Trail, Rifle Range, heading towards Rifle Range Nature Park, stop at Colugo Deck for some photos, walk along Rail Corridor, Wallace Trail and back to Diary Farm Carpark B Suitable for beginners. **Date : 21 Jan 2026 (Wed)** **Meeting Time: 7.45am** **Meeting point: Hillview MRT Exit A** **Est distance: 7.5km (about 1 hr 50 mins)** **Event Host : Mak** Pre-hike checklist: \* Eat a light breakfast. \* Bring about 500ml of water Bad weather contingency plan: \* Waterproof your belongings and bring rain gear (rain cover, jacket, poncho, or umbrella). Please read this #1 - This is a number-controlled event. Please come only if you are on the attending list. #2 - We will move out at 0745 sharp. We are not able to wait for late-comers. #3 - As this is a limited number event, please check your calendar and make sure you can come before you RSVP. Do not change your attendance at the last minute and deny someone else who genuinely wishes to come.

🚨 ***FIRST TIMERS*** 🚨 * This is a 90-min Intermediate-level fitness bootcamp suggested for those who do HIIT/bootcamps/F45/etc at least 2x/week * Depending on weather/WOD, we rotate between 5 different spots, thus check comments/photos here on Tue 6pm for exact location & grouping * Rain-or-shine event: won't be cancelled. Held under shelter if it rains * RSVP closes on Tuesday 530pm. If you’re unable to attend, kindly cancel your RSVP by then, so our leaders have a more accurate count to plan the workouts more effectively * Recommended: Water, Mat, Gloves, Light weight/bottles for added resistance Cya then! 🔊 ***DISCLAIMER*** 🔊 Please take a minute to read the following information regarding your participation in FitFam workouts. By signing up for this session, you confirm that you have read and understood the terms and risks detailed in our Disclaimer and Release of Liability Agreement: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MV9siOKELtbsSmCwwvp1rzJ-_GiAHGEW/view

Join me on Wednesday mornings for a hatha yoga class at Botanic Gardens to unwind, stretch, & breathe in the fresh air. Small class size. Hi! I'm Karyn. I organise this small group Hatha Outdoor yoga class for beginners at Singapore Botanic Gardens. Find me at IG [@curiosandyoga](https://www.instagram.com/curiosandyoga/) or [Lalang Life](https://www.lalanglife.sg/?utm_source=meetup&utm_medium=listing&utm_campaign=meetupevent) IG [@lalanglifesg](https://www.instagram.com/lalanglifesg/) (a collective of yoga instructors for private yoga sessions at home/your preferred location). **Small Group Outdoor Hatha Yoga Class at Singapore Botanic Gardens** *Perfect for beginners who want to start their yoga journey in a* UNESCO World Heritage setting. **What You'll Experience:** This is an intimate outdoor hatha yoga class for *newcomers to yoga* and those seeking *a gentle introduction to mindful practice*. With class size **capped at just 4 participants**, you'll receive personalised attention while enjoying the tranquil environment of the Singapore Botanic Gardens. **Who This Class Is For:** * Complete beginners who have never tried yoga before * Busy professionals looking for stress relief in nature * Anyone intimidated by large studio classes who prefers small group settings * Nature lovers who want to combine outdoor time with wellness practice **What Each Session Includes:** * Breathing exercises to ground yourself, centre your mind and be ready for the practice * Gentle loosening and warm-up exercises that prepare your body safely for yoga poses (asanas) * Beginner-friendly yoga asanas (poses) taught with clear, step-by-step guidance * Relaxation and pranayama (breathing techniques) to end your practice **Why Choose Outdoor Yoga at Singapore Botanic Gardens** * Enhanced mental well-being: Studies show that being in green spaces reduces stress * Fresh air & sunshine benefits: Outdoor practice improves oxygen flow and energy levels * Small group: Maximum 4 participants ensures individual attention **Class fee is SGD20.** Meetup collects payment in USD. If you will like to pay in SGD, sign up on Eventbrite or DM for paynow payment. https://www.eventbrite.com/cc/outdoor-yoga-for-beginners-3548139?utm-campaign=social&utm-content=creatorshare&utm-medium=discovery&utm-term=odclsxcollection&utm-source=cp&aff=escb **Things to bring:** * ***Yoga mat*** * A small towel * Water * Optional ground sheet/picnic mat or large garbage bag. We may practise on the grass. If you might be uncomfortable laying your yoga mat over the grass (which tends to be damp), do bring something to place under your mat. * Insect repellent will be a good idea **Location** **Meeting point.** We'll meet at the open lawn where the **Bougainvilleas and Bamboo collection** is. Look out for my *yellow* bag. * If you are coming from the **Botanic Gardens MRT Exit A** (circle line), (1) enter the gate then walk through Trellis Garden. (2) Take the middle path. (3) Turn right once exiting Trellis Garden. (4) Look out for the bamboo trees. Then walk on the stone path. (5) You should see the open lawn with bougainvilleas. (6) Look out for my Yellow bag. * If driving, the nearest carpark is near Melati Gate. Google map: [https://maps.app.goo.gl/PhHFbQAEFNB7j1pc6](https://maps.app.goo.gl/PhHFbQAEFNB7j1pc6) **Note: In case of rain or otherwise, the session shall be cancelled and not proceed. I will try my best to inform you of such cancellation via your registered email at least 45 minutes before the session. I appreciate your understanding on this. Your fee will be refunded if the class is cancelled due to rain.** **Release and waiver of liability** By your getting a ticket to this event, you: \- consent to the voluntary participation in the yoga session conducted by the organiser; \- understand that you should consult a physician before participating in the yoga session;\- recognise that it is your responsibility to notify the organiser of any serious illness or injury before the yoga session; \- will not perform any postures to the extent of strain or pain; \- assume full responsibility for any risks\, injuries\, or damages\, known or unknown\, which I might incur because of the yoga session; \- knowingly\, voluntarily\, and expressly waive any claim you may have against the organiser\, for injury or damages that you may sustain because of participating in the yoga session\. **Photography/videography** Photos and/or videos may be taken during the class. The photos/videos may be put up in the public domain for publicity purposes. If you do not wish to have your photo/video used, please inform me during the class.

**Come along to a friendly game of 5 a Side Football @ Civil service club rooftop 60 Tessemsohn Road 1-hour game** The game is 15SGD per pax for 1 hour, 15SGD is non-refundable if you don't play for any reason. Please RSVP in to book your playing slot now. After you RSVP one of the organisers will reach out to you to confirm your attendance and collect payment. If you do not reply you will be removed from the list so please check your meetup messages

Part of life is our faith or philosophy. Let's get together for dinner and drinks to share our thoughts on our faith, and our favorite comic books, books or Manga with faith imagery on a Tuesday night. There are so many images of faith representations in Pop Culture, like and not limited to: - Evangelion - Fire Force - Nightcrawler from X-Men - Daredevil - Legend of Avatar - works of legendary Osamu Tezuka and many more... See you there! Event Organiser: Mark Pereira Contact: 97907544

Come hang out with us every Friday as the sun sets. It's a chance to share your wins (and setbacks) while unwinding. Whether you're new to the city, hoping to meet new people, or just looking for a laid-back spot to relax after a busy week, Friday Sundown Socials is the ideal place to connect in a casual atmosphere. Venue: Open Sourced Website: [www.opensourced.so](http://www.opensourced.so/) Date: Every Friday Time: 6pm onwards Age Group: 25 to 59 Location: 10A Perak Road. Singapore 208131 Admission: $10 (includes free drink) 🍺🍷🍸

**Get ready for a night of delicious hotpot, new friendships, and a taste of Chongqing’s fiery food culture!** 🫕🔥 We’re bringing together travellers, food lovers, and curious explorers for a fun, cosy hotpot dinner — inspired by our upcoming adventure to **Chongqing, the world’s hotpot capital**. Whether you’re already planning your next getaway or simply love a great meal with great company, this dinner is the perfect chance to relax, eat, and meet like-minded people. **CHONGQING QUIZ** We will be having a really fun short quiz around anything and everything concerning Chongqing. ***ONE LUCKY WINNER will get a FREE Dinner on us!*** ### ⭐ **What to Expect:** 🫕 A hearty hotpot dinner (self-paid) 🔥 Learn the unique flavours & traditions of authentic Chongqing hotpot ✈️ A casual sharing about our upcoming 3Playtopia trip to Chongqing 🤝 Meet fellow travellers who love exploring new destinations 📸 A fun, social evening with warm vibes and lively conversations ### ⭐ **Who Should Join:** • Anyone who loves hotpot • Solo travellers looking to meet new people • Foodies curious about Chongqing • Friends planning their next overseas adventure • Anyone who just wants a fun, relaxing evening out There’s **no obligation to join the tour** — just come enjoy the food and the company! If our Chongqing itinerary catches your interest, feel free to ask questions or sign up after the session. Please note: This is paid dinner, it's roughly **$30 per pax** for the hotpot. Come hungry, come curious, and let’s enjoy a fiery Chongqing-inspired night together! 🌶️✨

An exclusive invitation! In Northeast China*, also known as Dongbei,* winter is more than a season — it's a time for family. Outside, snow falls and silence covers the ground. Inside, the air is filled with the warmth of family. There is a long-standing tradition of families gathering around a wooden table to make dumplings called Jiaozi. They work *to*gether, rolling dough and folding the skins, in a rhythmic and loving process. Each dumpling is a symbol of good wishes and warmth. It’s more than just cooking; it’s about coming together and creating memories in the cold. We want to transport that spirit of communal warmth right here to our circle. We invite you to **东北之夜 (Dongbei Night),** recreating the bustling, joyous atmosphere of a Dongbei home during the Lunar New Year. We will provide everything you need to make the dumplings—bring yourself! Date: 23 Jan 2026 Venue: AUBC #17-08 High Street Centre Fees: Free for Elites Limited slots (25) only

A long time ago, there was a place called the Golden Mile. It was an unpretentious shopping complex where a diverse range of people gathered —backpackers heading to Malaysia, seasoned Thailand hands reminiscing their youthful adventures at tiny Isaan karaoke shops, students looking for affordable parties, amulet hunters seeking super powers, and Thai food lovers. When the complex eventually closed, its occupants dispersed across the city. We tracing some of these Thai establishments. We’ll meet at Nana Thai (Far East Plaza, Orchard) for dinner. We will discuss all things Thailand—travel, music, Netflix shows, and, of course, food.

**THE BEST OF KULAI 古來->HAKKA VILLAGE/PUOTO VILLAGE/FACTORY OUTLET AND MORE....** **DATE: 24Jan 2026 (Sat)** **[CONFIRMED TRIP, SLOTS ARE AVAILABLE]** **☆INTERESTED, WHATAPPS 94884478 Wilfred or SIGN-UP HERE** **[https://www.meetup.com/lets-go-travelling-hiking/events/312646970/](https://www.meetup.com/lets-go-travelling-hiking/events/312646970/)** **TOUR HIGHLIGHTS:** ◾Kulai 古来 Sightseeing Tour -Kelapa Sawit Hakka Village -Mural / Street Arts ◾Pineapple Farm Tour + Free Samples ◾Johore Premium Factory ◾Kulai Putuo Village ◾Bukit Indah Aeon Mall / Massage / Shopping ◾Bukit Indah for Dinner **◾Bukit Indah Town (3 Hours of Relaxing Time)** To a land of scrumptious good food, relaxing hotels with affordable prices and fun-filled family-oriented entertainment, Bukit Indah has so much to offer! We will be visiting for shopping, massaging and relaxing after checking out from Treehouses before heading back to Singapore **☆INCLUDES:** \* 1 Event Host \*Guided Tour \*Nictar Pineapple Farm Tour \* Transportation Van < 14 person Bus >15 person \* Dinner included if group-size is 10 or more \*Bukit Indah 3 hours of Relaxing ( Massage/Shopping etc) \*Putuo Village , A Scenic Spiritual Sanctuary **☆EXCLUDE:** Travel Insurance Things not mentioned in itinerary Bukit Indah Massage/Shopping etc, at own cost Putuo Village Bamboo Forest Entrance Fee RM20/person **☆EVENT DETAIL:** **Cost: $120/person.** **2 persons sign up and payment together is $110/person** **3 persons or more sign up and payment together is $100/person** **☆PAYMENT:** **Paynow xxx to UEN 201727764C** Wilfred Go Travelling & Hiking Pte or Bank Transfer to DBS Current Account 0029069789 and Text 94884478 with Print-screen Receipt TA License No 03066 TA NAME: WILFRED GO TRAVELLING & HIKING PTE LTD \*\*To Connect With Us With Latest Events Broadcast & News: 1\. Telegram Channel: [https://t.me/wilfredtravelsg](https://t.me/wilfredtravelsg) 2\. Whatapps Channel: [https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VaJmIsU9mrGTPqpect3l](https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VaJmIsU9mrGTPqpect3l) 3\. Facebook: [https://www.facebook.com/events/calendar](https://www.facebook.com/events/calendar) **☆Suggested Itinerary:** (Sat), (L) 7am: Marsiling MRT 710am: Woodlands Custom 745am: Depart JB Custom 830am: Breakfast at Hakka Village/ Mural Wall / Street Arts 10am-Puoto Village 12pm: Johore Premium Outlet + Own Lunch 2pm: Nictar Pineapple Farm Tour 4pm: Bukit Indah Shopping/ Massage 630pm: Dinner @ Loon Sing Taman Daya 8pm: JB Custom 9pm: Marsiling MRT **DISCLAIMER, INDEMNITY AND TERMS OF PARTICIPATION:** **\-\-\-ACKNOWLEDGEMENT TO OUR TERMS & CONDITIONS\-\-\-** [https://www.wilfredtravel.org/terms-and-conditions](https://www.wilfredtravel.org/terms-and-conditions)

Join our weekly walking meetup to have fun, maintain a healthy lifestyle, meet new people, and enjoy the weather! We meet Saturdays at 10am, halfway between the Reston *Container Store* and *Not Your Average Joes* (by the metal benches), leaving no later than 10:05. Every week, rain or shine, we start by walking along the Green Trail to reach Lake Anne Community Center. Once there, we pause for water/bio (often staying a few minutes extra from April-November, due to the local Farmer's Market), and then we circle Lake Anne and head back to our starting point. It's roughly 3-4 miles and takes about an hour and a half. Afterwards, some members will often head to *Not Your Average Joes* or another local restaurant for a quick drink/meal before tackling the day. This event is open to all ages and fitness levels. Dogs are welcome, and we recommend dressing for the weather (umbrella, water, snow shoes, hat, etc.) since we'll walk rain or shine. Also, feel free to bring a friend! By signing up, you accept and assume all risks and responsibilities with this activity, and nobody will be held liable.

[Profs and Pints DC](https://www.profsandpints.com/washingtondc) presents: **“How Africans Fought Slavery,”** on the hidden history of resistance to the Transatlantic Slave Trade among those targeted by it, with Richard Bell, professor of history at the University of Maryland, College Park. [Advance tickets: $13.50 plus sales tax and processing fees. Available at [https://www.ticketleap.events/tickets/profsandpints/africans-fought-slavery](https://www.ticketleap.events/tickets/profsandpints/africans-fought-slavery) .] The Transatlantic Slave Trade was the largest forced migration in human history. In all, more than 12 million African men, women, and children were kidnapped and made to board European ships destined for the New World. Generally left out of our history books is the fact that African people fought the Transatlantic Slave Trade from the moment raiders approached their villages throughout every stage of the deadly Middle Passage. Join Profs and Pints fan favorite Richard Bell for a talk that turns the slave trade’s history inside out by examining the huge varieties of African resistance to this 400-year-long nightmare. He’ll discuss how African people fought capture through fortified villages, armed flight, and deception awareness. Their struggle to stay free involved rebellions inside African coastal forts, hundreds of shipboard mutinies, hunger strikes, and mass drownings. You’ll learn how African suicides and revolts, as well as the constant threat of captive rebellion, forced European traders to spend enormous sums on weaponry, guards, surveillance, and ship redesign. Such costs, historians now calculate, saved more than a million Africans from ever being trafficked across the Atlantic. Far from being helpless victims of an unstoppable system, African captives proved relentlessly defiant, leaving a record that reshapes our understanding of the trade and the roots of African American resistance. (Door: $17, or $15 with a student ID. Listed time is for doors. The talk starts 30 minutes later.) Image: The slave ship La Amistad, site of a famous mutiny by the slaves on board. (Artist unknown / Wikimedia Commons.)

**In a time of division and isolation, come be part of the community that's rebuilding the town square, one table at a time.** In BreadBreakers, we use the common space of the dining table to have conversations where neighbors can **hear, be heard, and know one another.** If you're hungry for good discourse and deeper community, join us for a Community Dinner in Reston and help blaze the trail to a healthier, more connected society and democracy. Here’s how it works: For just two hours, multiple tables of people set aside the need to "win" and instead focus on sharing, listening, and connecting. Guided by experienced table hosts, we'll tell our stories, try to understand each other, and practice being in community with those with different views or backgrounds. **At this dinner, participants will get to choose between three different topics, including some current events.** Topics could range from the political, to the spiritual, to the philosophical, to the off-the-wall - but no matter which table you choose to sit at, you can be sure it'll be like no dinner conversation you've had before! You can also **suggest a topic** by emailing us at BreadBreakersInfo@gmail.com. Food will be provided for free. For those who wish to provide a donation to help fund BreadBreakers, you can [give here](https://pushpay.com/g/restorationrestonumc?fnd=pO6G-N7oO7FH7Mp1u-x6mA&fndv=Lock&r=No&lang=en&src=pcgl) or at the event. We'll have vegetarian and gluten-free options available. If you have any additional dietary restrictions (Celiac Disease, vegan, etc.) please let us know at BreadBreakersInfo@gmail.com so that we can implement the appropriate food handling procedures. **Join us, invite a friend, and be a part of the movement to mend our fractured society and normalize a better way of talking with one another.** BreadBreakers, an initiative by [Restoration United Methodist Church](https://restorationreston.org/breadbreakers) in Reston, VA, is a religiously inclusive community. All faiths and all stripes are welcomed. Our leadership, volunteer team, and community include people who attend Restoration and people who don't.

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**\*\*\*This group is filled. Check out our next departure on Feb 20, 2026:** **https://www.meetup.com/moretoexplore/events/310787716/\*\*\*** Gaze at the Northern Lights, enjoy a sleigh ride, be a reindeer herder for a day, learn about the Sámi culture, visit an ice hotel, catch a fish (or two) through a hole in the ice, taste some good Scandinavian delicacies, visit the ABBA museum...My, oh my! These are just some of the fun activities we are planning to do during this once-in-a-life time adventure! Like all our adventures, this one is crafted from the ground up with the true spirit of Meetup in mind. We handle every little detail before and during the trip, accompany and guide the group, creating a stress-free journey with a laid-back, friendly vibe. No big tour operators, no inflated prices — we work directly with locals to give you authentic experiences and unbeatable value. Come as strangers, leave as lifelong friends — and make memories that stick forever! ***We visit:*** * Stockholm * Kiruna (Lapland) * Helsinki * Copenhagen (optional extension) ***The trip includes:*** \* 2 nights in Stockholm \* A night train from Stockholm to Lapland in a private sleeping compartment \* 4 nights in Kiruna \* 3 nights in Helsinki \* Airfare from Kiruna to Helsinki \* Arrival and departure transfers \* Sightseeing tours in Stockholm and Helsinki \* Boat ride in Stockholm \* Food tasting in Helsinki \* Breakfast daily \* 2 dinners and 3 lunches \* Northern Lights Tour \* Jukkasjärvi Icehotel Half-Day Tour \* Full-Day Reindeer Tour \* Ice Fishing or Husky Sleigh Ride **Price per person, double occupancy: $4770** (we match roommates for those wishing to share) **Price for single room: $6320** ***Not Included:*** x Transatlantic Airfare (we can help you arrange that) x Meals not listed above x Tips and any personal and incidental expenses x Optional extension to Copenhagen The only way to secure your spot is a $500 deposit **\*\*\*Deposit link removed as this date is sold out. You can reserve your spot for our next departure on Feb 20, 2026 [HERE](https://www.meetup.com/moretoexplore/events/310787716/) \*\*\*** Deposit is refundable up to 90 days before the departure (less PayPal fees).\*\*\* Final payment due 60 days before departure\*\*\* ***[Click Here](https://forms.gle/MqXy8zWAB6pv2dW37)***[ and Fill out this Form if you are making a Deposit](https://forms.gle/MqXy8zWAB6pv2dW37) For a detailed Day By Day itinerary: **[Click Here](https://forms.gle/cQdqYw74gAYqphXX8)**[ to fill out our info request form](https://forms.gle/cQdqYw74gAYqphXX8) Limited capacity of 14 total. This trip will fill up extremely quickly. \*\*\*Airfare from/to the US not included\*\*\* **OPTIONAL EXTENSION TO COPENHAGEN offered at $590 per person/double or $785 solo occupancy (air from Helsinki to Copenhagen not included)** ***[Click Here](https://secure.meetup.com/messages/?new_convo=true&member_id=131297062)***[ to Message Direct to Anna with any questions including airfare quotes.](https://secure.meetup.com/messages/?new_convo=true&member_id=131297062) She can help you arrange the airfare and answer any logistics questions. [Click Here to see all our other fun events](https://www.meetup.com/CulturalArts/Events) SOT 2000318-10

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**BreadBreakers is a community where people of all different belief systems and backgrounds can create community - and what better way to do that than reading together?** Join us as we combine the kind, curious, and welcoming atmosphere of a BreadBreakers dinner with the thought-provoking, fun format of a book club. Here's what to expect: * We'll be reading *Of Mice and Men*, by John Steinbeck. * This will be a one-meeting club, so if you've ever wanted to do a book club but couldn't commit to multiple meetings, here's your opportunity! * Snacks :) * BreadBreakers ground rules apply - we'll lead with curiosity, converse with kindness, and strive to dig beneath the surface level. * We'll be gathering in Meeting Room 1 at the Reston Regional Library. * Participants will be responsible for obtaining their own copies of the book. [Here's the Amazon link, if helpful.](https://www.amazon.com/Mice-Men-John-Steinbeck/dp/0140177396) * Our BreadBreakers table hosts will come ready with questions and facilitation skills - you come ready to discuss! **I've never attended a BreadBreakers event before - what is BreadBreakers?** BreadBreakers is a community where neighbors from all different beliefs and backgrounds can **hear, be heard, and know one another.** Most frequently, we do this through the ancient practice of breaking bread around a common dining table. But we're more than just a discussion group - we're a movement to heal our world's broken discourse and forge togetherness in a time of isolation and loneliness. **Through the sacred act of just "being" together, we're working to rebuild the town square, one table (or book club) at a time.** BreadBreakers is a religiously inclusive by Restoration United Methodist Church in Reston, VA. All faiths, beliefs, and stripes are welcomed, and our leadership and community include people who attend Restoration and people who don't.