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Important Elaine Clark Update! -   Greeting Group! The weekend of the 28th is a BIG VO weekend for us Dallasites, and beyond! For those that have booked Saturday's event and would love to attend Cliff Oct 17, 2017 9:22 PM
Elaine Clark is coming to Dallas!!! - Hey Dallas VO Peeps! Elaine Clark is coming to our home town!! 2 full days at CakeMix Recording! Oct. 28th & 29th! Cliff Sep 20, 2017 11:25 PM
Dave Fennoy videos! - Hey DVA & Dallas VO Peeps! One more thing... Wanna know a little more about Dave? Other than the MASSIVE amounts of info via Google, please check out these 2 videos!! About the Workshops... Cliff Jun 28, 2017 8:29 PM
Dave Fennoy is coming to Dallas!!! -   Hey DVA Members & Dallas VO Peeps! SAVE THE DATE!!! July 15th & 16th! Dave Fennoy Teaches VO for Video Gaming! 2 FULL days (16 HOURS!!!) at beautiful CakeMix Recording for only $525 f Cliff Jun 28, 2017 6:01 PM
Meetup details changed: EVERETT OLIVER - A-MAZING Animation Workshop! - Hey Group, I've updated this Meetup. For more details, see the full listing: http://www.meetup.com/voiceove­r/events/233477586/ EVERETT OLIVER - A-MAZING Animation Wor Cliff Aug 30, 2016 11:59 PM
Last Call! -   Hey Guys and Gals, We have a nice group forming. This is the last call . WoVO Promo Video Shoot. (You MUST be a WoVO member - http://world-voices.org/ ) Cliff Dec 4, 2015 9:57 PM
WoVO Promo Video - Greetings All! IF YOU ARE A WoVO MEMBER , please read on... if not please consider joining, http://world-voices.org/ then come back to Cliff Dec 3, 2015 8:54 PM
Short & Sweet Notice! - Hey Guys & Gals, Save $25 on registration for VO Atlanta 2016. When registering on line , use the code: DVA25 Cliff Nov 8, 2015 9:12 PM
Dave Fennoy Talks About Dallas! - Hey Group, Please click on this link and check out a cool short video by the man himself, Dave Fennoy. https://vimeo.com/136042792 A few spots are still open. If you have th Cliff Aug 11, 2015 10:50 PM
Dave Fennoy! BIG Breaking News! - The Art and Technique of Voice Acting for Video Games with Dave Fennoy Friday Night Mixer August 14t Cliff Aug 8, 2015 12:24 AM
ATTN: Newest DVA Members! - Greetings to all the newest DVA members! It's our Final NEWBIE's NIGHT of 2014! Tuesday Dec. 2nd 6:30 PM - Uptown, Dallas Cliff Nov 17, 2014 8:14 PM
I know... a lot lately but.... - This is too important to not scream from the rooftops (See Randye, I'm outside)! PLEASE read this blog post by dear friend and super-human talent Randye Kaye.  This is written from a whole new perspective... not about seminars, tech-tips, esse Cliff Jul 10, 2014 1:32 PM
Important notice! - Hey Group! In case you weren't aware, the DVA has an a Cliff Jul 8, 2014 12:35 AM
FaffCamp is coming! Mar. 2015 - Greetings DVA Member! FaffCamp is Coming! It could be anywhere in the country... and it's going to be in San Antonio! Yes! All Levels of experience are welcome! It will sell out. Registration starts Monday June Cliff Jun 29, 2014 12:45 AM
Pick your next DVA Meet Up - Hey Guys & Gals, I have received many emails asking about the next topic (especially from those attending a recent Newbie's Night). Most are requesting specific DVA topics. I have narrowed them down to the 3 most requested. Please email me Cliff May 17, 2014 9:26 AM
Last call for Newbie's - Night Tues. 4/29 - Hey Guys & Gals, If you haven't attended a Newbie's Night, now's your chance. There are only 2 spots left for our Tuesday, April 29th Meet Up. Newbie's is a prerequisite for most future DVA meet ups, because if you don't know the basics, st Cliff Apr 26, 2014 4:08 PM
Keep an eye out for DVA notices! - Hey Group. Please keep an eye on your in-box over the next few days for the announcement of 3 MAJOR meet ups. The topics will be: 1) Getting "Demo Ready" - All the things you should be doing before Cliff Mar 1, 2014 9:40 AM
Hey Group! - Hey Guys & Gals, The Meet Up that was posted for Dec. 31st. was only a "placeholder" to say we are talking December off.  I was out of town spending the holidays with family and friends. New Meet Ups will be announced soon for the Cliff Dec 29, 2013 4:52 PM
A Quick note! - Hey Group! Just a quick note to say that " Gearing up for Automotive " has filled (less than 24 hours of posting) and " 1 Line Deconstruction and Script Analysis " has only 3 spots left.  If you didn't get a chanc Cliff Sep 12, 2013 9:16 PM
Tallying the votes... - Hey Group, To those that have responded (or soon will) THANK YOU for your valuable feedback. I have received a little more than 100 responses and each vote has been registered. I am going to give it until Sunday to announce the results and sche Cliff Sep 5, 2013 11:11 PM
Your pick our next Meet Up! - Calling All DVA Members! The next meet up will be YOUR CALL! I am listing below, our MOST popular meet up topics. Now, it's up to you to vote on what you'd like next.  I will tally the votes and the top 3 will be our late summ Cliff Sep 1, 2013 6:40 PM
The DVA Presents: Dan Lenard's - Untangling TwistedWave! -   You only have 2 more days to register for the DVA’s DAN LENARD’S – “Untangle TwistedWave” Monday June 10th, 7:00 - 9:00 PM Reading & Radio Resource Cliff Jun 8, 2013 2:22 PM
Elaine Clark is Coming to Dallas NEXT WEEKEND! - Hey Group!   After much hemming, hawing... and research, I am truly excited to report that Elaine Clark will be in Dallas next weekend for a very special seminar. Why was I hesitant? Cliff May 11, 2013 12:14 PM
A few spots opened for tonight's Learn Audacity with Dan Friedman! - Hey Group, I just received a few cancellations for tonight.  : ( There are a few openings. This will be an AWESOME Meet Up, with cool technology.  If you're not recording at home, or need the inside scoop on Audacity, here is your cha Cliff Apr 29, 2013 10:43 AM
Quick reminder... - Hey Group, If you're on Facebook, and care to get semi-as it happens DVA news on Dallas VO related topics, as well as select commentary from some of the top VO mouthpieces, then join our page. Click to join, I will approve you. That is all. Cliff Mar 27, 2013 9:03 AM
Direct link.... - Here is a direct link to the event.   Thanks!   cz     Cliff Feb 25, 2013 12:44 PM
Pat Fraley's workshop is almost full! - PAT FRALEY is coming to Dallas! Essential Comedy & Humor Performance T Cliff Jan 8, 2013 10:31 PM
BOB BERGEN is coming to Dallas!! - Hey Group, This is an essential seminar that should definitely accompany your VO studies! We have been working very hard to attract talent like Bob to Dallas and now it's a reality!  The price is right and the information learned is priceless! Cliff Jan 7, 2013 1:23 PM
OOOPS! Sorry about the error!!! - Hey Group, I clicked the wrong button on the send. Darn, just one button away... If you didn't attend this meet up (which was awesome, by the way), please disregard the earlier email. I have changed the URL for Cliff Dec 20, 2012 11:18 AM
Your Audio is Ready!! - Hey Guys & Gals, First, let me say what a wonderful group you were. I know you will all hear things you like, or aren't sure about, or even down right dislike... but I am sure you will all agree that each of you moved up a step or two. This Cliff Dec 20, 2012 10:38 AM
Major DVA insider breaking news!! Pat Fraley is coming to Dallas! - Hey Group, I have just received word that Pat Fraley will be in Dallas for his: Taking Comedy Seriously Essential Comedy & Humor Performance Techniques  January 26 - 27, 2013 Dallas at Cakemix Re Cliff Dec 13, 2012 11:13 AM
A Great Opportunity! - Hey Members, We have the opportunity to have the great Neil Kaplan come to Dallas in association with your DVA. Thi Cliff Nov 11, 2012 9:10 PM
Shamelessly asking for YOUR help! - Greetings Guys & Gals! This month kicks off Movember - During the month of November, us guys grow mustaches to show support for men's health. We all have had grampas, dads uncles, and brothers who have died too young from prostate cancer or Cliff Nov 1, 2012 6:21 PM
Gabrielle Nistico & VOCareer.com are coming to Dallas! - Hey Guys & Gals, I received a few phone calls from Eric Simendinger . He is a career consultant and works with Gabriel Nistico. The are both coming to Dallas. He asked me to pass this info on to you.  If you think you are ready for Cliff Sep 29, 2012 4:30 PM
Attention Newest Members! - Greetings Guys & Gals, Just a quick reminder that RSVPs For our Summer Newbie's Night will open in less than 1 hour! That's 7 PM tonight! If interested, please click her Cliff Jun 28, 2012 6:12 PM
Reminder.... Guest Host Katie Leigh RSVPs open 7 PM tonight. - Greetings Group,   RSVPs open at 7 PM tonight for an Evening of Character Reading, Recording & Direction with the DVA's special guest host, Katie Leigh! Space is limited. There will be 2 sessions in 1 continuous Meet Up. One group Cliff Jun 3, 2012 5:56 PM
MARC CASHMAN IS COMING TO DALLAS!!! pt. 2 - Cliff Apr 6, 2012 6:56 AM
MARC CASHMAN is coming to Dallas pt.1 - Greetings DVA Members, The DVA & Super Hero University has had the pleasure and honor of hosting some of the BEST Voice Acting mentors on the planet! Some of these superstar Cliff Apr 6, 2012 12:39 AM
Please join our NEW FaceBook Page! - Hey Guys & Gals, You are cordially invited to join our newly launched FaceBook Page . Here you can read the Cliff Feb 23, 2012 11:20 AM
Pat Fraley Workshop Next Month! I will be a guest speaker! - Greetings to all DVA members, Just a quick heads up to tell you that the legendary Pat Fraley will be holding his MeltDown! MixDown! A Record-'til-You-Drop Voice Over Event in Dallas next month! Cliff Feb 18, 2012 5:36 PM
Last chance to get in on Tony Oliver's Workshop! This Weekend. - Hey Everyone, This is your last chance to get in on this incredible workshop conducted by one of the TOP animation directors, actors and writers in the business. Tony Oliver will be at beautiful Cliff Feb 9, 2012 2:00 AM
A quick poll... - Hey Guys and Gals, As you may know the DVA works in cycles. It starts with Newbie's Night and goes deeper from there. I have received a ton of requests to have as the next topic either "Gearing up for Automotive - Round 6" or " Cliff Jan 16, 2012 1:08 PM
YES!!! Tony Oliver is coming to Dallas!! Feb. 11th & 12th to Cake Mix Studios. - Greetings DVA Members New & Old, From time to time, The DVA & Super Hero University announce the arrival of an essential workshop or event coming to Dallas, us Cliff Jan 9, 2012 11:14 AM
HEY EVERYONE, - Hey Group! Terry Daniels is putting together his annual audio Holiday Greeting from all of us in the VO world. I would love to create a group greeting for our DVA. If you have a few moments, please go Cliff Nov 29, 2011 9:45 AM
A Very Happy Thanksgiving to You and Yours! - Greetings DVA Members, For this upcoming Thanksgiving Day, I'd like to express my gratitude and reaffirm my friendship to all active members of our group. Together, we have built something we can all be proud of and call our own. My deepe Cliff Nov 23, 2011 1:57 PM
Last Blast & then it's Past... Mary Lynn Wissner is coming to Dallas! - The clock is ticking... time is running out... an Cliff Sep 22, 2011 6:20 PM
RE: [voiceacting-78] Announcing: 2 Great VO Events in Dallas! - Preview not available Casey G. S. Sep 5, 2011 11:07 PM
Re: [voiceacting-78] Announcing: 2 Great VO Events in Dallas! - Preview not available MaryLynn W. Sep 5, 2011 12:57 PM
Re: [voiceacting-78] Announcing: 2 Great VO Events in Dallas! - Preview not available user 1. Sep 5, 2011 11:03 AM
Announcing: 2 Great VO Events in Dallas! - Hey All DVA Members! Those that regularly attend DVA Meetups have been working hard… really hard. Practicing constantly to hone their craft, improving interpretation and script analysis, learning about home studios, we Cliff Sep 5, 2011 11:02 AM
Industry parties! - MERRY CHRISTMAS and happy holidays!! The parties are here! (Or at least, here are the ones I know about....) December 15th - The Freelance Party Squad party at House of Blues, and December 16th - The All Industry Party (benefitting TXMPA) at Gilley Glenn C. Dec 12, 2010 11:14 PM
Oooops... - Hey There, (Almost Everybody...) If you received Mary's email, sorry about that. Those little buttons on the email form are too close together. About the Oct. 11th meet up, De-Constructing Your Script... I will be posting that soon Cliff Oct 28, 2010 12:09 PM
Hey Mary - Sorry you can't make this round. There will be many more down the road. Sounds like you are having fun! Your refund should be complete... I am having round 2 on Thursday, the 11th. (shhhhhh) it hasn't been announced yet. I already have 5 peop Cliff Oct 28, 2010 11:27 AM
Cliff added a post - Hey Group, due to a last minute cancellation, there is 1 spot open for Newbie's Night, Oct. 18 at 7:00 PM. If you are considering joining the group and being an active participant, now's the time! Cliff Oct 8, 2010 7:17 PM
Correction! - The RSVPs open on Saturday the 21st at 10 AM (not the 22nd) sorry for the slip up. cz Cliff Aug 20, 2010 11:45 PM
3 Meet Ups Scheduled - Greeting Group! I have scheduled 3 Meet-Up you may like to attend. RSVPs will open for the Meet Ups at 10 AM on Saturday Aug. 22nd. The events & dates are: Thursday Cliff Aug 20, 2010 11:42 PM
The DVA Announces 2 Meet Up dates for early August! - Hey Guys & Gals, Pre-Notice of 2 Meet Ups. Registration for both of these events will begin tonight at 8 PM! Aug 5th - Newbie's Night Round 2 ! This is the LAST Newbie's Cliff Jul 25, 2010 10:06 AM
New Meetup: It's time for Newbie's Night! - Announcing a new Meetup for The Dallas Voice Acting Meetup Group! What : It's time for Newbie's Night! When : Monday, July 19,[masked]:00 PM Pr Cliff Jul 9, 2010 1:22 AM
OOOPS... wrong button. - Hey DVA Members, Late last night I sent out an email that was intended for those that have already signed on to the waiting list for "Animation Plus", announced early in June. For members that did sign on, I added 2 additional nights Cliff Jul 2, 2010 8:46 AM
Hey Guys & Gals - You are receiving this email because you signed the waiting list for Animation Plus. Your Animation Plus is next Thursday, July 8th, 7:00 PM. If you are still interested in attending this meet up, please go to our site and register as soon as Cliff Jul 2, 2010 1:36 AM
New Meetup: ANIMATION PLUS! - Announcing a new Meetup for The Dallas Voice Acting Meetup Group! What: ANIMATION PLUS! When: Monday, June 28,[masked]:00 PM Price: $34.00 per person Where: The STUDIO 508 Twilight Trail On Twilight, So Cliff Jun 16, 2010 4:20 PM
New Meetup: It's time for Newbie's Night! - Announcing a new Meet Up for The Dallas Voice Acting Meet Up Group! What: It's time for Newbie's Night! When: Thursday, June 17,[masked]:00 PM Price: $34.00 per person Where: The STUDIO 508 Twilight Tra Cliff Jun 6, 2010 10:26 PM
MJ Lalo In Dallas May 15th 2010 - Hey Group, Check out our message board: http://www.meetup.com/voiceove­r/messages/boards/thread/88628­36 MJ is a top gun with NickToons and many ma Cliff Mar 31, 2010 10:48 AM
New Meetup: Deconstructing Your Script - Announcing a new Meetup for The Dallas Voice Acting Meetup Group! What: Deconstructing Your Script When: Monday, March 29,[masked]:00 PM Price: $32.00 per person Where: The STUDIO 508 Twilight Trail On Cliff Mar 20, 2010 11:57 PM
Animation Voiceover Workshop - Mary M. Jul 31, 2009 10:05 AM
New Meetup: RAH,RAH, Hear it RAW! - Announcing a new Meetup for The Dallas Voice Acting Meetup Group! What: RAH,RAH, Hear it RAW! When: August 3,[masked]:00 PM Price: $26.00 per person Where: Unity Center 300 North Coit #179 Located south Cliff Jul 13, 2009 7:09 PM
Explaination... - This last email "Audio Available" was meant for participants of the June 1st Meet UP... Sorry for the confusion. cz Cliff Jun 6, 2009 10:53 PM
Re: [voiceacting-78] Animation Voiceover Workshop - Preview not available Galena May 22, 2009 5:17 PM
RE: [voiceacting-78] Animation Voiceover Workshop - Preview not available NayLahknee May 22, 2009 5:15 PM
Re: [voiceacting-78] Urgent help needed and appreciated - I'm not familiar with it. Clarence Bla user 2. Apr 3, 2009 10:41 AM
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Re: [voiceacting-78] Urgent help needed and appreciated - My problem is that RED button, or maybe called "armed red recording" not working today, just today. So, I can't record anything, and I don't see that "green vertical" indicator, either. But, it can still play the clips. Can you help me bring that user 2. Apr 2, 2009 6:19 PM
Re: [voiceacting-78] Urgent help needed and appreciated - http://www.ableton.com/faq They also offer technical support for paid. Do you Anita Apr 2, 2009 5:43 PM
Urgent help needed and appreciated - I am a Mandarin Chinese teacher. I attended the newbies meeting last winter. I use Ableton Live 5 recording program for my voice recording work, as part of my teaching. Today, this program suddenly stopped working. Is there anyone familiar with user 2. Apr 2, 2009 4:02 PM
This Monday - Get ready to READ! - Greetings All! This Monday, July 21st is our 11th Meet Up, starting promptly at 7:30 PM. Same place. This Meet Up's focus will be READING and taking direction! I have a dozen new scripts to dive into. We will also be exp Cliff Jul 19, 2008 9:13 PM
Meet Up - This Monday July 7th. - Greetings All! This Monday, July 7th is our 10th Meet Up , starting promptly at 7:30. This Meet Up's focus will be outlining a reasonable, SA Cliff Jul 5, 2008 12:10 PM
RE: [voiceacting-78] Meeting details changed: 2 in one MONTH! - .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } Yes, I will attend. Thank you, Daniel Pulido Daniel P. May 24, 2008 1:11 PM
Meeting details changed: 2 in one MONTH! - I've posted a new meeting. For more details, see the full listing: http://voiceacting.meetup.com/­78/calendar/8004127/ When: Monday, July 21, 2008 at 7:30 PM Where: The Cliff May 24, 2008 12:30 PM
Tomorrow Night's Meet Up - Greetings All! Tomorrow night (Monday) is our 9th. Meet Up, starting at 7:30 promptly. We will focus on solo and group reading. Come a bit early, if you can, to select your script(s) and begin rehearsing. ABSOLUTELY NO problem in folks r Cliff May 18, 2008 1:14 PM
July Meet Up! - Hey All, I just posted a Meet Up for July 7th. Same place, same time, but... it is NOT a 3rd. Monday (obviously). Since we are suspending the June Meet Up to make time for the June WorkShop (more info at Cliff May 14, 2008 8:47 PM
5 More Openings! - Hey All, [VO: Read with urgency, hard sell] The clock is ticking... Time is running out... The time to get in... is NOW! And remember, once they're gone... they're GONE!!! I have opened up 5 Cliff May 2, 2008 11:43 PM
Doin' the 19th. - Hey All, There was some rumor of an "Emergency" Meet Up on May 5th, considering the May 19th date filled up so quickly. Unfortunately, I won't be able to pull it off... A teetering project tipped in our direction and will require ev Cliff May 1, 2008 10:09 PM
Got your message - What's up bro? I got your message, I've been busy rehearsing for this Journey tribute gig that I'm subbin for. Sounds like the meetup went great, what's your idea for my website? Tommy Thomas Apr 25, 2008 12:58 PM
Meeting details changed: The Dallas Voice Acting May Meeting - I've updated this meeting. For more details, see the full listing: http://voiceacting.meetup.com/­78/calendar/7785930/ When: Monday, May 19, 2008 at 7:30 PM Where: The S Cliff Apr 22, 2008 1:21 AM
This Monday's Meet Up! - Well, this entry is long overdue. This will be the first meet up since February and the completion the most recent work shop. CONGRATULATIONS to all who attended. We look forward to seeing those that participated. To all newbies attending t Cliff Apr 19, 2008 2:15 PM
April Meet up... - Hey There Regulars... Take a look at the site. We have a bunch of new members. Most of them have RSVP'd yes. The total is now at 13, so if you want in (after a month break for the workshop), please sign up now. I really don't want to exceed Cliff Apr 1, 2008 6:26 PM
RE: [voiceacting-78] Attention New Members! - Thx Cliff, look forward to meeting you. ~ sent via T~Mobile Dash ~ Sweet G ;-) Galena Mar 6, 2008 8:49 PM
Re: [voiceacting-78] Attention New Members! - Cliff, Can't wait for those "Kettle Chips" ! Will see you next Mon. evening however, chips or not. Michele Cliff <[address removed]> wrote: Michele Mar 6, 2008 11:59 AM
Attention New Members! - Hey All, There has been a slew of new members that have joined our family. To all the newest members , this email is for you. The meet-ups are taking a break in March to concentrate on the Workshop. This means we will be st Cliff Mar 6, 2008 12:35 AM
Meeting details changed: Suspended for March ONLY. Doin' the WorkShop. - I've updated this meeting. For more details, see the full listing: http://voiceacting.meetup.com/­78/calendar/7409323/ There will be no meet-up scheduled for March, due to the Work Cliff Mar 1, 2008 11:40 AM
The March VO Work Shop is a Go! - It's Official. The dates are set in stone. If you want to be a part of it, now is the time. If you need more info, please go to: www.DallasVO.com and look around. The Dates are as follows: 7 - 10:30 PM Monday March 10 Cliff Feb 21, 2008 10:43 PM
Our Recording Studio! - Greetings Group, I have posted 5 photos of the studio we will be using for the WorkShop. Go to the Meet-Up site and click "Photos" on the left hand side of the page. For more information, or to register for the WorkSho Cliff Feb 10, 2008 9:41 AM
View a few scripts... - Hey All, I have posted excerpts from some scripts we will be reading from on our Feb. Meet up. They can be viewed in the message area of the Meet-up site. (Left Side) Questions? email me. thanks! cz Cliff Feb 3, 2008 11:42 PM
New Meeting: The Dallas Voice Acting February Meetup - Announcing a new meeting for The Dallas Voice Acting Meetup Group! What: The Dallas Voice Acting February Meetup When: Monday, February 18, 7:30 PM Where: Click the link below to find out! Who should come: All a Cliff Feb 3, 2008 11:15 PM
January is UP - Check the site for January! thanks, Cliff Cliff Dec 20, 2007 11:29 PM
3 Minute Sound Check - I'm looking for somewhere I could get a 2-3 minute professional sound check created. Any help? Cornelius ______________________________­______________________________­________________________ Get easy, one-click access to your favorit user 4. Nov 26, 2007 9:56 AM
Just in case.... - Hey Group, When the Meet-up this 19th is full, and you haven't RSVP'd yet but you really, really want to come, please email me at [address removed] by Nov17th . I can always bring another bagel... Cliff Cliff Nov 11, 2007 10:23 PM
Almost full! - Hey Gang, Please check the site if you haven't recently. We only have ROOM FOR 4 more!. Since it is a week away (Nov 19th), please get in soon. This meet-up will max out at 20, and we're up to 16! Remember, if you do RSVP, please come! Cliff Nov 11, 2007 9:36 PM
Diving deeper into Interpretation! Mon. Nov. 19th 7:30pm - Don't miss this one! We're Diving Deeper!! I know, I know... I talk a lot! I hear that often. So... tonight's YOUR night to ask ANY questions you may have about the industry. Go ahead, try to stump us. We also will "Dive Deep into Interpre Cliff Oct 15, 2007 11:48 PM
Event details: Wanna Read? Tonights the Night! - I've updated this event. For more details, see the full listing: http://voiceacting.meetup.com/­78/calendar/6468946/ When: Monday, October 15, 2007 at 7:30 PM Where: The Cliff Oct 2, 2007 10:54 AM

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