Frank, the 2 areas have different rules.  There is no flying in the 10 NM "inner core."  Sometimes there are exceptions to that, where you land at a gateway airport and  clear TSA before going into the inner core.  I think they have that at HPN, and ISP is a gateway.  Don't remember, and I'm not going there, so I don't care.

The outer core is less restrictive.  You merely need to be on an active VFR or IFR flight plan, and in contact with ATC on a discreet beacon code.  So it's a Cub ban.

During the hours that the 10NM TFR is not in effect, you can transit the area on a flight plan with a transponder on a discreet code.  When it is in effect, you cannot transit unles cleared by the TSA.

Does that help?

David

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank the Hitchhiker" <[address removed]>
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Sent: Thursday, August 28,[masked]:23 PM
Subject: [Mid-Island-Pilots-C­lub-Email] TFR tomorrow


> Could someone please explain this to me?
> 
> OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN A 30 NMR OF[masked]N/[masked]­W OR THE 
> CMK[masked] UP TO BUT NOT INCLUDING 18000 FT MSL EFFECTIVE[masked] 
> UTC (1330 LOCAL 08/29/14) UNTIL[masked] UTC (1745 LOCAL 08/29/14). 
> WITHIN A 10 NMR OF[masked]N/[masked]­W OR THE CMK[masked] UP TO BUT NOT 
> INCLUDING 18000 FT MSL EFFECTIVE[masked] UTC (1330 LOCAL 08/29/14) 
> UNTIL[masked] UTC (1430 LOCAL 08/29/14).
> 
> The 30 NMR TFR is between 1330 and 1745 local (4 hours 15mins).  The 10 
> NMR TFR is between 1330 and 1430 local (1 hour).  Isn't the 10 NMR 
> included in the 30 NMR?  How can you get to the 10 NMR after between 
> 1430 local and 1745 local unless you dive in from above 18,000 feet if 
> it is not included.  Maybe it is ok to launch inside the 10 NMR and fly 
> around in there but can't go more than 10 NM.   I fly models at Bethpage 
> State Park (and some of the guys are planning to fly tomorrow).  The 
> park is within the 30 NMR but outside the 10 NMR.
> 
> I'm so confused.  Am I not seeing something? Frank the Hitchhiker
> 
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