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12
February 2010
In
this week's Newsline
Quotes
of the week
Essays of the week
STOP PRESS: BA cross woman loses appeal
Government says it will fund "elements" of the
Pope's visit ��� but how much?
Self-serving hospital chaplains seek to save their own
skins in hospital cuts
Muslim police? Christian doctors? Sikh judges? What
happened to neutrality in the delivery of public services?
School becomes a religious battleground
Atheism doesn't have the disadvantages that religious groups
claim
Keith challenges caste discrimination
Imam who didn't know it was wrong to beat up kids is
jailed
Pope's half-hearted apology upsets child abuse support groups
Let the Vatican know the you don't appreciate its political
interference
Malta's Labour party promises a secular state if elected
Help promote secularism ��� join our Stop Council
Prayers campaign
Anglicanism all but extinct in Canada
Take the Moral Sense Test
NSS Speaks Out
Letters to Newsline
Events
Quotes
of the week
"The Pope and the
Archbishop have every right to voice their political views. You might say it's
part of their contract. On the other hand, politics has no obligation to regard
them."
(E. Jane Dickson, Independent)
"Where [Cherie Blair]
is mistaken is to assume that religious people necessarily follow the teaching
of their particular faith. She need look no further than her husband and fellow
Catholic Tony to see someone who appears to have no awareness of all that he
has done wrong and announced that he would do it all again if he had the
chance."
(Richard Ingrams, Independent)
"The days are gone when
the church could expect unquestioning obedience. Its Irish members now are
educated and sceptical, as well as devastated by the sex abuse
disclosures."
(Editorial, Irish Independent)
Essays of the Week
Every
prime minister since the sixties has been a professed Christian. Why?
(Antonio Weiss, Guardian)
Should
religion be an excuse for carrying daggers?
(Rebecca Roache, BBC)
A
religious but not a righteous judge: Cherie Blair
(AC Grayling, Richard
Dawkins.net)
STOP
PRESS: BA cross woman loses appeal
Nadia Eweida, the woman who sued British Airways for not allowing her to wear a
cross over her uniform, has lost her appeal in the High Court. Ms Eweida had
taken the airline to an Employment Tribunal claiming religious discrimination,
but lost that case. She has lost each subsequent appeal, the latest of which
was supported by the human rights group Liberty. Liberty is now considering
appealing the case to the Supreme Court.
Carla Revere, a barrister and vice president of the National Secular Society,
said: ���At the moment employers are walking on eggshells in many areas which
involve religion at work. We hope that this judgment will help them feel more
confident in setting their employment policies in relation to dress codes and
other religious requirements.���
More
information
Government
says it will fund "elements" of the Pope's visit ��� but how much?
In response to a
parliamentary question about whether the Pope's trip to Britain will be
regarded as a state visit and how much the taxpayer will be expected to pay,
the Government replied: "The forthcoming visit of the Pope to the UK will
be a Papal visit. As a Papal visit it will have status equivalent to a State
Visit. The costs of the visit have not yet been determined; as with State
Visits, certain elements will be borne by public funds."
Meanwhile, the NSS's "Make the Pope Pay" petition has now attracted
more than 20,000 signatures and is still rising. Terry Sanderson, President of
the National Secular Society, said: "The tremendous success of the
petition indicates the large reservoir of resentment in this country at the
prospect of spending millions of pounds on a "state visit" that will
be entirely religious or pastoral in character. This visit will consist in the
main of masses and the beatification of Cardinal Newman. A state visit usually
has some benefit for the host country in the way of trade or better relations.
There are no such benefits for Britain from this visit, and therefore the
Catholic Church should pick up the tab."
A five-day visit by the Pope to Australia in 2008 cost the country over A$200
million (��114 million). Other
state visits within Europe have also cost eye-popping sums .
If you haven't signed the petition yet, please
do so now .
Self-serving hospital
chaplains seek to save their own skins in hospital cuts
In an effort to save
themselves from imminent hospital cuts, health service chaplains are being told
to demonstrate their worth.
The president of the
College of Health Care Chaplains, Mark Stobart, told the Church Times: "We are
preparing to send advice to members next week. Sound advice would be to ensure
record-keeping in a professional context so there is evidence of what we do as
chaplains. We will then be able to show that we are an essential component of
health care. In that way, chaplains may be able to save themselves... there
will be cuts across the board and chaplains can often be seen as a soft target.
But in times of deep anxiety, you need chaplains even more."
One major NHS hospital
trust recently estimated that it would have to find the equivalent of 12 per
cent cuts in spending.
Dennis Penaluna, the NSS member who co-ordinated the research last
year that revealed hospital chaplains cost the National Health Service in the
region of ��42 million a year, said: "The arrogance of this NHS closed-shop
is way beyond breathtaking. According to one survey, hospital chaplains spend
80% of their time, 'talking', so record keeping shouldn't be too much of a
problem for them. I just hope that they will keep very accurate records to make
their case ��� and make them available for public scrutiny. In any case, I'd like
them to tell the rest of us which NHS service they think should be slashed
instead of chaplains. No doubt it'll be something useful and productive, like,
cleaners, nurses or radiographers."
Muslim police? Christian
doctors? Sikh judges? What happened to neutrality in the delivery of public
services?
Editorial by Terry
Sanderson
Last week we took exception to Cherie Blair apparently treating a defendant in
her court differently because he was "a religious man". That was bad
enough, but as far we know, Mrs Blair does not refer to herself as a
"Christian judge" or even a "Catholic judge" but just
"a judge" ��� which is a point in her favour.
Last week there was a
controversy over the Sikh ceremonial dagger, the Kirpan, which a retired judge
had argued should be permitted in schools and other buildings with high
security.
Sir Mota
Singh QC was referred to repeatedly in the media as a "retired Sikh
judge". But surely he was a retired judge who was a Sikh? This new
convention of putting a religious adjective before occupations that should be
neutral is worrying.
Now we have "Hindu
police" and "Christian doctors" and "Muslim scouts"
and "Catholic teachers". In all these instances, surely the religion
of the person being referred to should be of secondary importance. Instead it
appears to be the primary definer. Doesn't anyone see the danger of encouraging
"Muslim police officers" rather than simply "police
officers"? How, for instance, will people in the Jewish community react to
officers who want to define themselves as "Muslim police" and vice
versa? See
here for an instance of it. How will "Sikh police officers" deal
with Hindus when we know there is a history of conflict between their
communities?
Last week also saw the
formation of the first "Muslim
scout troop" in Bradford. There were celebrations among the local
mosque community, but to us it is not something to be cheered, it's really
quite tragic. Not only are children from Muslim backgrounds being encouraged by
the Government to go to separatist schools, they are now being kept away from
the majority population in "Muslim" scout troops. How on earth are
they ever going to feel part of this country when they are kept almost entirely
apart from it? Segregation is bad enough as it is.
Similarly,
"Christian doctors" are now demanding that they be given the right to
treat their patients differently on the basis of religion. "Christian
pharmacists" don't want to dispense contraception; "Muslim check
out" persons don't want to handle pork or alcohol; "Christian
registrars" don't want to carry out civil partnerships for gay people.
It is time this was
stopped. If people who work in a public service are to provide that service
without fear or favour, it must be made clear to them that, when carrying out
their professional duties, their religion must be secondary. And if they say it
can't be, then they should find another job.
All sectarian organisations set up within public services, whether it is
Muslim Police or Christian Doctors or Sikh judges or Quaker civil servants
should be dismantled immediately. Hospitals, courts, schools, the police, local
authorities and Government and its departments, should be secular for all our
sakes.
School becomes a
religious battleground
An employment tribunal
case being heard this week illustrated just how serious an issue religious
bigotry is becoming in schools.
Nicholas Kafouris, who claims he was forced out of his job at
Bigland Green Primary School in east London, was accused by one parent of
believing that "Christianity is better than Islam". She said he had
made an "insulting" remark about her daughter wearing a headscarf in
class.
According to Betsan Criddle, representing the
school and Tower Hamlets local education authority, a parent had complained
that Mr Kafouris told her daughter "she was wearing a headscarf for no
reason" during a lesson.
The parent said Mr Kafouris claimed her daughter had misbehaved in class.
When the woman asked her
daughter about it, the girl seemed upset and was initially reluctant to talk
but later said Mr Kafouris had made the remark about her headscarf. A statement
from the parent said she believed Mr Kafouris promoted "Christianity as
better than Islam" and she complained to the school.
Mr Kafouris
denied making the remark about the headscarf and added it would make "no
sense" for him to have said it. He claims the school failed to back him
when he reprimanded Muslim pupils who made offensive remarks about other races
and religions.
In his witness statement,
Mr Kafouris claimed that Muslim children had made remarks like "we hate
the Jews", "we hate the Christians" and had spoken of the
September 11 bombers as "heroes and martyrs". Some had spoken of wanting
to be "Islamic bombers when we grow up", he said.
Mr Kafouris
today said complaints against him were made after he reported racist incidents
to the school authorities.
But Ms Criddle said Mr Kafouris's employment records showed his
teaching had been criticised from as early as 2001 when assessments spoke of
poor management of his classes.
Mr Kafouris
sought medical help for work-related stress and anxiety in February 2007 and
remained off work due to illness until he was dismissed in April last year. He
claims the school's handling of his case contributed to the stress-related
illness which led to his dismissal. Mr Kafouris submitted several letters from
former pupils to the hearing which spoke of his respect for other religions,
including Islam.
The teacher, who said he
came from a Greek Orthodox background, is claiming he was the victim of racial
and religious discrimination. His complaint names the school's headteacher Jill
Hankey and assistant headteacher Margaret Coleman, who he said condoned and
upheld the discrimination by failing to tackle the children who made offensive
remarks. "If they don't challenge it, of course they are liable," he
said.
Mr Kafouris
was asked if he thought remarks made by a child should be treated the same way
as those made by a 53-year-old teacher. "This nine-year-old should know
right from wrong," he said.
Mr Kafouris
said Ms Coleman had undermined him in front of a class when he tackled a child
who made offensive remarks about Jewish people during a lesson she observed.
Ms Criddle
said Ms Coleman was also a Christian and showed her faith by wearing a cross
but Mr Kafouris said her behaviour was not that of a Christian. Ms Criddle
quoted from a medical assessment of Mr Kafouris which in November 2008 said he
had "paranoid thoughts" about the school. Mr Kafouris denied he was
paranoid and added: "They are obviously out to get me."
An Ofsted
inspection of Bigland Green Primary School last year said it had around 465
pupils and "almost all" were from minority ethnic groups and spoke
English as an additional language. The school, which was assessed as
"good", was praised for promoting community cohesion although
inspectors said pupils did not have sufficient opportunities to work with pupils
from different ethnic and faith backgrounds.
See also:
School
ignored racist pupils, former teacher claims
Oxford
Islamic students shout "Slaughter the Jews" at Union speaker
Why
college authorities daren't displease their Islamist students
"Faith
schools" and their marvellous ethical values
Atheism doesn't have the
disadvantages that religious groups claim
There has been a swathe
of dubious reports recently about the supposed benefits of religion ��� how it
makes you healthier, happier, less anti-social and ensures that you grow better
tomatoes.
Now we are seeing the
opposite claims beginning to emerge. A new study published in Trends in Cognitive Science
finds that religion may have evolved as a by-product of non-religious, cognitive
processes, dispelling a competing theory that religion served as an adaptation
to help unrelated individuals cooperate.
The findings, published
on Monday, suggests that people's gut instinct for what is right and wrong
operates independently of religious upbringing.
Harvard psychology
professor, Marc D. Hauser, who co-authored the study, argues that from an
evolutionary perspective, cognitive mechanisms involved in moral
decision-making precede organised religion. "Morality is far more ancient
than religion," Hauser said. "Most, if not all, of the psychological
ingredients that enter into religion originally evolved to solve more general
problems of social interaction."
Hauser claimed the
findings help explain recent studies indicating that people's moral intuitions
vary little across different religions.
To illustrate the
universality of certain moral intuitions, Hauser presented two hypothetical
options for saving a group of seven people in a closed room ��� pressing a button
to divert poisonous gas from the room or pushing a person into a ventilation
shaft to stop the gas from reaching the room. "Far fewer people would say
[the latter] is permissible, regardless of religious background," Hauser
said.
In cases of moral
judgment that fall outside the norm ��� martyrdom, for instance ��� Hauser and
co-author Ilkka Pyysi��inen of the Helsinki Collegium for Advanced Studies
propose that religion, much like legal institutions, exerts its own pressure on
people's moral judgments after it emerged from natural cognitive processes.
Though Hauser said he
anticipates negative reactions to his apparent down-playing of religion's
significance, the study's purpose was not to cheapen religion. "To those
who find meaning in religious experience, I have nothing either positive or
negative to say," he said.
Hauser and Pyysi��inen add that their findings are not meant to explain
religion, but to deny the claim that "all aspects of religion emerged at
once at some point in history."
Another study, published
in Society and Ageing
from the Cambridge University Press, looks at whether religion helps people
cope better with ageing and was carried out by Peter J. Wilkinson and Peter G.
Coleman.
Although a variety of
research projects have been conducted on the benefits of religious coping in
older adults, no direct comparison between atheism and religious faith has been
published. The study reported in this paper tackled this issue by interviewing
two matched groups of people aged over 60 years living in southern England, one
of 11 informants with strong atheistic beliefs, and the other of eight
informants with strong religious beliefs. Five paired comparisons were
undertaken to examine the role of the content of the belief system itself in
coping with different negative stresses and losses commonly associated with
ageing and old age. The pairs were matched for the nature of the loss or stress
that the two people had experienced, but the two individuals had opposed
atheistic and religious beliefs.
The analyses showed that
all the study participants ��� regardless of their beliefs ��� were coping well,
and suggested that a strong atheistic belief system can fulfil the same role as
a strong religious belief system in providing support, explanation, consolation
and inspiration. It is postulated that the strength of people's beliefs and how
those beliefs are used might have more influence on the efficacy of coping than
the specific nature of the beliefs.
The authors say further
research into the strength of belief systems, "including atheism", is
required to test and elaborate this hypothesis.
Keith challenges caste
discrimination
The UK Government appears
to be edging closer to outlawing discrimination on the grounds of caste. It is
hoped this can be included in an Equality Bill currently under consideration by
Parliament. Caste discrimination provisions were not in the original draft of
the bill, and Hindu leaders had claimed that caste discrimination was not a
problem in Britain despite substantial evidence to the contrary. But government
ministers have indicated an openness to consider the matter as a result of some
powerful lobbying.
It would be particularly
fitting for the UK to change its law because the UK has so many citizens with
Indian background as a result of former imperial links. Also, London was the
venue of the first international conference on untouchables, organized by the
International Humanist and Ethical Union (IHEU) in June 2009.
Keith Porteous
Wood, working in his capacity as IHEU International Representative, has been
working with Dalit groups in the UK uncovering research about the extent of the
problems in the UK, and with academics who provided invaluable legal and
legislative help. He also approached potential speakers for what turned out to
be an influential debate in the House of Lords. Soon after the debate, Baroness
Thornton, one of the government ministers responsible for the Equality Bill,
offered to meet those involved to hear their views.
Read
a fuller report on this
Imam who didn't know it
was wrong to beat up kids is jailed
An imam at a London
mosque has been jailed for 12 weeks after he was convicted of assaulting a nine
year old boy. Gulam Hussain punched and kicked the boy and beat him with a
bamboo stick.
Walthamstow Magistrates Court heard that Hussain,
who was an Imam at The Jamia Mosque in Leyton, had previously been cautioned in
2005 for a charge of actual bodily harm (ABH) against an 11-year-old. The Chair
of the magistrates, Dr Paul Davis, told Hussain through an Urdu interpreter
that he was being jailed, "for the protection of the public".
Hussain's mitigation was that "cultural
differences" meant he had not realised the beating was wrong. Rosalind
Fox, prosecuting, told the court that Hussain punished the child because he had
been misbehaving. She said: "The defendant punched the boy on the shoulder
and kicked him on the leg with the flat of his foot. The victim said he cried
to get the defendant to stop."
In relation to the second
incident, she told the court: "The defendant took a bamboo stick and told
him to sit on the floor, then he hit his bare feet several times causing
reddening on the feet, which made it painful to walk."
The court heard that the
boy did not sustain any serious injury, but was embarrassed in front of his
friends. Victoria Burgess, defending, told the magistrates that the parents of
the victim had given the defendant permission to punish their son in this way,
so he didn't know it was wrong.
She said: "He
believed that by having his father's permission made it acceptable. Clearly it
doesn't and he realises that now. The offence originated out of cultural
difference ��� a misunderstanding of what he could do with the permission of a
parent."
Spokesman for the Waltham
Forest Islamic Association which runs the mosque, Tariq Mohammed, said the Imam
was suspended when police launched an investigation into the assault, and he
will no longer work at the mosque. Mr Mohammed said: "We condemned his
actions from day one. This man has done wrong and the law has taken its course
of action, and we support the law. He will not be part of our association now,
or in the future."
Pope's half-hearted
apology upsets child abuse support groups
Survivors of clerical
sexual abuse have written an open letter to Pope Benedict as Irish bishops
prepare to meet the Pontiff at the Vatican next week.
They say survivors find
it incomprehensible that the Vatican and the Papal Nuncio saw fit to hide
behind diplomatic protocols to avoid co-operating with the Murphy Commission of
Inquiry into the abuse of children in Dublin.
Yesterday,
representatives of the bishops met leaders of four survivors' groups as part of
ongoing consultations and said they would relay the survivors' concerns to the
Pope.
The letter calls for Pope
Benedict to instruct Irish bishops to comply fully with child protection
guidelines, including the mandatory reporting of all concerns or complaints to
authorities.
They have also urged the
Pope to remove Bishop Martin Drennan who, they say, still refuses to accept any
responsibility for his part in supporting a culture of cover-up during his time
in the Dublin archdiocese.
Meanwhile, it is being
reported that survivors will also ask the Pope for a ���1bn compensation package,
and request a meeting during his visit to England in September.
See also: Inside
Germany's Catholic sex abuse scandal
Let the Vatican know the
you don't appreciate its political interference
A demonstration is being
organised this Sunday by the "London for a Secular Europe" group to
protest at the Vatican's interference in politics and its opposition to human
rights all around Europe. The march is held in conjunction with a similar event
in Rome ("NO VAT", i.e. "No Vatican"), where secular
Italians are protesting against the political power and influence of the
Vatican, and its anti-human rights agenda in Italy, Europe and worldwide. Terry
Sanderson, president of the National Secular Society, will be one of the
speakers.
Make sure you are there
to swell the numbers. Assemble: Sunday 14 February 2010 at 1pm outside
Westminster Cathedral (not Westminster Abbey), Victoria Street, London SW1
(near the corner with Ambrosden Avenue).
More
information
An example of what the
group is complaining about is happening right now in Spain. Catholic
theologians there are trying to prompt a constitutional crisis in the country
by pressuring King Juan Carlos not to sign legislation that will make abortion
on demand legal in the first 14 weeks of pregnancy.
Article 91 of the Spanish
Constitution requires the king to sign any law that has been approved by the
Spanish Parliament within 15 days. However, no mechanism exists to force the
king to do so. He has never refused before, despite the present Government bringing
in laws that have been strongly opposed by the Catholic Church.
Juan Jose Valero Alvarez,
Director of the Monte Corban Theological Institute and Rector of the Diocesan
Seminary of Santander, told the Religion en Libertad press agency that
"the King cannot sign the Abortion Law in good conscience, because it is
against all morality and the limits of the natural law."
Jose Mar��a
Pardo, a theologian at the University of Navarra,
says that "in my opinion, to ratify a law is to give is consent and
support. He should object."
Pablo Cervera,
theologian and Coordinator of the organization Magnificat, addressed himself
directly to the king: "Majesty, in virtue of your right to objection of conscience
(I want to believe that you would put that first that when faced with any
decision), do not sign this evil and perverse law."
The new abortion law was
recently passed by the Spanish Congress, the nation's lower legislative body,
following more than a year of pressure from the Church for them to abandon it.
The law is currently being examined by the Senate, which is expected to pass
it. King Juan Carlos, a professed Catholic, is required to sign the law to give
it legal effect.
See also: Protests against the pope to hit
London
Wave goodbye to this papal
pontification
Malta's Labour party promises a secular state if elected
A new political movement
in Malta promises ��� if Labour is elected ��� to separate church and state and
legalise divorce and second marriages as well as to give rights to homosexuals.
The proposals were made
at a ten-day Labour conference, which promised to bring radical changes to the
social life of this deeply Catholic island. The Party's leader Joseph Muscat
said the movement was also committing itself to allow freedom of expression.
"Democracy also means the right to speak out without the fear of
intimidation."
He reiterated his pledge
to introduce a Bill on divorce and give Labour MPs a free vote if elected to
power, because he believed that everyone should have the right to a second
chance if their first marriage did not work out. There was no place in the
movement, he said, for people who were prejudiced against gays or against those
who wanted to form a family after their first marriage had broken down.
Help promote secularism
��� join our Stop Council Prayers campaign
Our council prayer
campaign has got off to a good start ��� but we still need your help. We've been
asking Newsline readers to find out for us whether their local council starts
its meetings with prayers. Our legal adviser says that such practices are
illegal under human rights legislation and we want to challenge as many as
possible.
Many others feel the same
way, and this is your opportunity to do something about it. Please spend a few
minutes seeking to help the campaign. First of all please find
out from here whether your own Borough, District or Town Council has
already been checked out, and if not please do your best to find out what is
happening in your council and let us know what you discover. You also could try
research on Councils not listed.
Please do not report
Councils as "no prayers" unless you have contacted officials to
confirm this (and say this in your email) as the absence of prayers from
agendas or minutes is not conclusive.
Anglicanism all but
extinct in Canada
A report prepared for the
Anglican Diocese of British Columbia has found that Anglicanism in Canada is
"one generation away from extinction." Between 1961 and 2001, the
ecclesial community lost 53% of its members.
43% of Canada's 33.5
million residents are now titular Catholics, while 23% are supposedly
Protestant (including Anglican). An increasing number of Canadians profess no
religion.
"The unchurched are not coming to us," the report moaned.
"Lapsed Anglicans are not coming back in sufficient numbers."
Take the Moral Sense
Test
Harvard University is
conducting research into where morality originates. They have an on-line "Moral
Sense Test" to try to find out. If you'd like to participate, it only
takes a few minutes.
NSS Speaks Out
Keith Porteous Wood was
on BBC Radio Ulster's prestigious Sunday
Sequence current affairs show debating the Equality Bill with a
representative of the Catholic Bishops' Conference. Terry Sanderson was on BBC
Radio Stoke talking about the Cherie Blair incident and he was also on Radio
Wales (twice) talking about a demand from Sikhs that they should be able to
carry their ceremonial dagger in schools and through security checks.
The NSS's resistance to
the taxpayer funding the Pope's visit continued to generate comment such as
this in the Sunday
Times and on Spanish
TV .
The NSS was quoted in this
story about discrimination against teachers in "faith schools" in
the Times Educational
Supplement .
Terry Sanderson was on
the premiere current affairs programme on Russian TV's English-language channel
talking about the place of religion in society.
Terry was also on Radio
Five Live's Breakfast Show discussing the amount of religion shown on TV and
was quoted on the BBC
website and Keith Porteous Wood was on the BBC News Channel. The story was
also covered in the Guardian,
Independent,
Digital
Journal and Digital
Spy .
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From Cheryl
Dennison:
I don't agree that
the planned Pope's visit to the UK is just wrong because taxpayers are paying
for it; it is wrong because of all that the Vatican stands for. The Vatican
Council II was just a public relations stunt, e.g. changes that Protestants
should be called 'separated brethren' as opposed to 'heretics' even though
canons banning 'heretics' still exist. A 'heretic' is anyone who opposes Roman
Catholic dogmas, etc. (The Vatican hates Protestants because they do not
'accept' the Pope as the head of the Church). These and other 'changes'
occurred in the hope that people would somehow miraculously forget about the
Pope's support for Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, and all the other dictators the
Vatican has supported.
The Pope regards himself
as having temporal and apostolic authority. (After all, the word 'catholic'
means 'universal'). Temporal is power over all the peoples of the physical
earth and apostolic power is the idea that the Vatican gets its authority
because Peter was the first Pope (when in fact the first Pope was actually
Constantine). It was only when Europe started to break free from the Vatican's
grip (and people became Protestants, atheists, etc.) that science and learning
started to flourish. But more importantly, the insidious inquisition (created
by the Roman Church to stop all opposition, especially protestors' opposition)
stopped and in time people started to be treated with some respect.
The Vatican is said to be
the richest organisation on earth, with billions and billions of pounds at its
disposal. It is full of greed. With that sum of money, they could feed a very
large amount of the starving third world human population, but, no, you have
the Pope going around hypocritically telling relatively poor people to donate
money. Think of the Haiti disaster. I wonder how much of his riches the Pope is
willing to give up for that. There again, many of these poor countries have
dictators running them that might be supported by the Vatican. I certainly know
that Fidel Castro was trained by Jesuits. Also, Robert Mugabe is a Roman
Catholic.
Although it appears to be
secular on the outside, the European Union (EU) is based on Catholic Social
Policy. The Vatican runs the EU puppet show (hence the need for Concordat
Watch, NO VAT, etc). The EU's regionalisation of the UK is nearly exactly the
same as that planned by the Nazis had they won the war. Moreover, the Nazis
planned to call it the EEC ��� the European Economic Community! The EU flag has a
pantone blue background with 12 pantone yellow stars in a circle in the centre
of the flag. The stars are based on the 'Queen of Heaven' (who is supposed to
be the Virgin Mary), who has 12 yellow stars around her head. After all, the
undemocratic EU was conceived in the hearts of Catholic men with an inquisitorial
mindset: The EU plans to replace 'trial by jury' and 'innocent until proven
guilty' with 'guilty until proven innocent' (Corpus Juris)! It is quite
frightening when you consider how all-pervasive the Vatican really is. This is
the real basis on which the National Secular Society (NSS) and any other
organisation, whether religious or not, should be campaigning against the
Pope's visit to the UK.
From Mark
Francis:
Perhaps the Pope should read what the Bible has to say about removing the log
from your own eye before taking out the mote from someone else's. An
organisation that is prepared to tolerate and cover-up widespread sexual abuse
of children within its own ranks cannot expect a serious hearing on any subject
concerning sexual morality ��� or anything else. I have signed the petition
against public funding of the Pope's visit, but it does say that we accept the
right of him to come here. I am not sure about that. We have excluded other
rabble rousers and hate-mongers. I do not think he is even a European citizen.
From Garry Otton:
I am deeply concerned about the quality of reporting we can expect from the BBC
surrounding the Pope's visit after pious Director General Mark Thompson has met
senior Vatican officials in the capacity of BBC editor-in-chief and enjoyed a
weekly audience with the Pope in a place normally reserved for visiting
dignitaries. Here, in Scotland, Scotland
on Sunday and The
Scotsman have censored any blogs following news stories about the
Pope's visit on their websites and my contribution to the prominent Catholic
coordinating the Pope's visit to the UK, Scottish Secretary of State, Jim
Murphy's blog, expressing my concerns about the visit, was removed within
hours.
Quite apart from the
estimated ��20m cost to the taxpayer for this visit, this meddling Pontiff wants
the Catholic Church to be exempt from equality and anti-discrimination laws
that apply to everyone else. The Pope has played a key role in the cover up of
abuse by Catholic clerics, many of which occurred in Scotland. He plans to make
Pope Pius XII a saint, even though he failed to speak out against the
Holocaust, has watched the decimation of populations through HIV while
forbidding the use of condoms and fills the Vatican coffers with donations from
the world's poorest people. Far from coming here to express remorse, his
intention is to meddle in our political affairs, as he tried to do in Spain,
and proselytise while this unelected cleric oversees a Church that invests in
protection against claimants, delays paying out to its victims and stands
accused of money laundering. (Some ��160m through the accounts of Italy's
UniCredit Bank). The silencing of those voices most hurt by the Catholic Church
in Scotland by our Parliament and media is a shameful act.
But there is even one
more reason that Scotland's sexual minorities should feel disquiet about this
visit. In the year 2000, the Catholic Church spearheaded a vile campaign funded
by an evangelical Christian multi-millionaire that attacked the gay community.
Newspapers detailed our distinguishing features; posters were erected across
Scotland denouncing our practices while the media spread rumours of cliques and
warned of an international conspiracy. Intellectuals were discredited, windows
smashed, gay media closed down. This wasn't Germany in 1935; it was Scotland in
2000. Many of these stories were not published south of the border. (My book on
the subject, 'Badge of Shame' is currently being serialised on my
website .)
From John Turner:
At least the UK is paying a lot less than Australia did for a papal visit. The
World Youth Day (Week) in Sydney cost New South Wales and Australian taxpayers
about ��60 million. At one stage the state government attempted to make
'annoying' the visitors an offence. Street protests by individuals may be more
effective than police controlled group protests. I stood on the outside corner
of a Sydney street, where the pilgrim march changed course, with a sandwich
board reading, "Gullibility annoys me" and "Think for
yourselves" and received plenty of attention from pilgrims and plenty of
supportive comments from people in the street. I have recently used a modification
of a Huxley aphorism to some effect. "Scepticism is the highest of duties
and blind faith and indoctrination of children are two unpardonable sins."
From Peter
Williams:
As an Australian reader of Newsline
(thank you for that) I sympathize with the many expressions of outrage at the
financial arrangements re the forthcoming visit of the Pope to your country.
However, England is still
better off than we are in this regard. The recent 'World Catholic Propaganda
Day' (sorry, that should read 'World Youth Day' ��� complete with Papal visit and
mock crucifixion) cost the state of New South Wales ��� together with some
commonwealth contribution ��� even more than your projected costs. I can't
provide an exact figure because that has never been published, but it was
substantially more than forty million dollars.
From Jean
Berkley:
Barbara Smoker is confusing Doctors Without Borders (Medicins Sans Frontieres ���
MSF) with the Medical Foundation for the Care of Victims of Torture.
In Wikipedia MSF is
described as 'a secular humanitarian non-governmental organisation best known
for its projects in war-torn regions and developing countries facing endemic
diseases." It is working in Haiti and has a worldwide reputation for its
invaluable work in very difficult situations.
From Eddy Layzelle:
Just to reiterate on my letter (Newsline
29January) and further reference to the letter of Graham Davis (22 January)
about giving donations to Non Believers Giving Aid: a religion-free way to help
disaster.
Graham Davis states in
his letter: "To restrict donations to those charities that are without
religious connects is repugnant." As atheists we really have to think
before we speak; we have a certain responsibility to point out that religious
groups do not help people on the ground without ulterior motives.
This week I was shocked
to learn that U.S. missionaries were kidnapping children and placing them in
orphanages in the Dominican Republic, these children aged between two and
twelve years old were taken from their parents without proper authorization or
paperwork. Who knows where those children could have ended up, and worse, what
kind of abuse they could have suffered! Now that's repugnant!
So when you are giving
money to charities consider what charities you are giving to and try to be
cognisant of the groups that you are funding! At least you know where your
money is going if you are giving it to Doctors without Borders or the
International Red Cross. See
the full story .
From Nick
Harding:
Somehow criticising a bad programme makes me a bad neighbour. I am simply
cheesed off (again) that someone who claims to be a non-believer is bashing the
very thing he claims to support. You only have to read Howard Jacobson's
newspaper columns to see this.
My criticism lies with
the fact that he and his producers wasted a lot of money on what was
essentially a pointless programme about the creation myth. Television, as well
as radio and film, is rife with religious propaganda (anyone with Sky can see
that even the National Geographic channel is full of it) and as we all know
programmes about non-belief/atheism/agnosticism are as rare as hen's teeth.
Other than those presented by Dawkins (and look at the criticism he has to
endure afterwards) it's usually to bash non-belief or further promote
misunderstanding about what it is. Jacobson's programme was no different.
Rod Liddle's
The Trouble with Atheism
is another good case in point which, rather unsurprisingly was given 4 stars by
the Daily Mail ���
or was that five? Once again here is a man who claims to be a non-believer
spending all his time bashing atheism then later and somewhat paradoxically
giving The God Delusion
a big thumbs up.
That's the point of my
criticism. There's that awful term from Americans politics, flip-flopping,
which is precisely what Jacobson and Liddle do. On top of that, my particular
bug bear is the term 'militant atheism' used across the media ��� as if we
atheists are setting off suicide bombs, or issuing fatwahs, murdering
homosexuals and doctors or stoning people to death. It was a term used by
Jacobson and this from a man who should know better. More importantly, an
intelligent man should not be trapped by his upbringing whether that's Judaism,
Christianity or Islam etc.
From Richard
Byrne:
I debaptised myself ages ago ��� it's easy, I just over-ruled a superstitious
man-made ritual with another one made up by me which basically went: "With
the power invested in me of free thought I hereby declare that from this day
forward I no longer identify myself with any religious mystical or supernatural
systems of belief." Easy!
From Clare Poyner:
Al Grandy says in Newsline
last week: "On this Burka business, can we not just [start a] campaign for
a ban on wearing masks in public���..job done."
Bit unfair on people with
facial injuries, no? Incidentally, my friend who works with domestic violence victims
says that some women use a face covering ��� niqab or burkha, to avoid detection
and subsequent threats from their families. Can't really answer that one, other
than saying that shouldn't be necessary; but that's not going to change anytime
soon, sadly.
From Richard
Winter:
Suffering mainly psychological Jesuit abuse throughout my developmental years,
four decades of impact followed. May the following resonate, amuse and sting
just a bit where that is needed and just. Here are Religion's (other) Ten Commandments :
Thou shalt not question us. Ever.
Thou shalt respect, obey and, for
ye highest amongst us, dutifully facilitate depraved, child-abusing clerics who
after all are god's appointed ones
Thou shalt, at our will, mutilate
babies and children to appease our..ahem..child-loving god
Thou shalt only apply thy
troublesome Earthly laws to us when we say so
Thou shalt not dare be born of a
sexuality that will inhibit our congregation-building baby farming, nor protect
thyself against spreading deadly disease should it have the same effect on our
farming targets
Thou shalt ignore our own god's
bizarre concept of all people being equal in his eyes. Ha!
Thou shalt prolong the agony of
dying loved ones for as long as is inhumanly possible
Thou shalt not believe anything as
inconvenient to us as that Jesus fellows so called 'Sermon on the Mount'. As if
he'd have anything useful to inspire the likes of us!
Thou shalt fund our lovely,
privileged lives whether you are one of our unthinking slaves or an eternally
damned self-thinker
Thou shalt accept as
unquestionable truth whatever inhuman, illogical, barbaric, divisive,
discriminatory or plainly ludicrous pronouncements we happen to utter
See also: The
atheist 10 Commandments
From Paul
Stevenson:
A Canon at the CofE Synod has raised awareness of the "testosterone
deficit" in CofE congregations (i.e. many more women than men).
It is my observation that
the situation in the NSS membership is numerically reversed (i.e. many more men
than women). Would readers like to like to suggest reasons why this might be
so?
Events
Oxford Think
Week 22-28 February.
Think Week is a series of high profile free events organised jointly by the
Oxford Atheist Society, Oxford Secular Society, Oxford Humanists, Oxford Sea of
Faith and Oxford Skeptics in the Pub. Talks include Dr Evan Harris MP ���
Skepticism and Secularism; Dr Julian Baggini ��� Freedom, Respect and Religion;
Professor Peter Atkins ��� Science is King. Full
details.
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