Re: [newtech-1] GM says you don't own your car, you're actually leasing it & the software that runs it
| From: | Gerardo L. |
| Sent on: | Monday, June 1, 2015, 1:53 PM |
Replacing the software with an open source version would create huge liability problems. I doubt that people would be willing to jailbreak their cars when a bug may make brakes fail, or "brick" a car worth tens of thousands.
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Lucas <[address removed]> wrote:
Wouldn't a simple workaround just be to uninstall the software and then install a different open-source version. Software gone, car yours. Thoughts??-Lucas IsolaCo-Founderᐧ
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Debra Benkler <[address removed]> wrote:This isn't that different then when the printer manufacturers (HP, Epson, etc.) put chips on print cartridges so that only their replacement cartridges would work in their printers. The aftermarket print cartridges companies fought back and had the practice changed. I would expect that the aftermarket automotive parts companies would/will do the same. They're not going to sit back and let GM dictate the replacement parts market. Plus, if consumers are aware of this (and I often wonder how many would be), they would start buying cars from other companies and stay away from GM.
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J Brown wrote:It reminds me of the Trans Pacific Partnership that the government is trying to fast track. The citizen consumer is losing out.
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On May 24, 2015, at 10:05 PM, "mark phelan" <[address removed]> wrote:
"..People use free software operating systems such as GNU/Linux for various reasons ..more at stake than just convenience. What's at stake is your freedom, and your community..": https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-intro.html
"..When a liberal sees a beggar, he says the system isn’t working. When a Marxist does, he says it is..": https://indypendent.org/2015/04/09/test-mania-preparing-students-life-under-modern-capitalism
On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 8:05 PM, EddieN <[address removed]> wrote:
GM has joined with John Deere in asking the government to confirm that you literally cannot own your car because of the software in its engine.
Like Deere, GM wants to stop the Copyright Office from granting an exemption to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act that would allow you to jailbreak the code in your car's engine so that you can take it to a non-GM mechanic for service, or fix it yourself. By controlling who can service your car, GM can force you to buy only official, expensive parts, protecting its bottom line.
As Consumerist quips, GM wants you to know that the car in the driveway is "literally not your father's Oldsmobile."
GM’s claim is all about copyright and software code, and it’s the same claim John Deere is making about their tractors. The TL;DR version of the argument goes something like this:* Cars work because software tells all the parts how to operate
* The software that tells all the parts to operate is customized code
* That code is subject to copyright
* GM owns the copyright on that code and that software
* A modern car cannot run without that software; it is integral to all systems
* Therefore, the purchase or use of that car is a licensing agreement
* And since it is subject to a licensing agreement, GM is the owner and can allow/disallow certain uses or access.
Eddie, time to trade in my GM for a Tesla
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