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FL Today: School board divided on LGBT policy - Amy Kneessy on Bill Mick stated said they were being told funding would be held back.

From: Scott E.
Sent on: Sunday, May 1, 2016, 8:21 AM

It would not matter if I were there and stone cold out like a light and snoring.  Where are the documents threatening loss of funding for Brevard County Schools if no such policy is enacted?  Sarcastic diversion is no substitute for the facts.

 

From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Bob White
Sent: Sunday, May 01,[masked]:22 AM
To: [address removed]
Subject: [rlccef] Fwd: FL Today: School board divided on LGBT policy - Amy Kneessy on Bill Mick stated said they were being told funding would be held back.

 



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From: Richard Charbonneau <[address removed]>
Date: April 28, 2016 at 9:53:37 AM EDT
To: Ed Priselac <[address removed]>, "Matthew D. Nye" <[address removed]>,  Scott Ellis <[address removed]>, Bob White <[address removed]>,  John Weiler <[address removed]>,  Beth and Dale Young <[address removed]>,  Barbara Knick <[address removed]>,  Connie Smith <[address removed]>,  Denise Coyle <[address removed]>,  "dean.paterakis Paterskis" <[address removed]>,  Brevard Times <[address removed]>,  Dave Berman <[address removed]>,  Dave Pasley <[address removed]>, Jorge Cadiz <[address removed]>,  Allan Trucano <[address removed]>,  Space Coast Tusk <[address removed]>,  Clyde Thodey <[address removed]>,  Brevard Business News <[address removed]>,  Roger Gangitano <[address removed]>,  Roger Gangitano <[address removed]>
Subject: Re: FL Today: School board divided on LGBT policy - Amy Kneessy on Bill Mick stated said they were being told funding would be held back.
Reply-To: Richard Charbonneau <[address removed]>

I e mailed Amy, asking her for a copy of the documents saying we were at risk for losing funding and here was her response.

 

This was discussed during the workshop.  You were there.  Perhaps you were asleep?

 

Amy

 

Asleep: I take 2 very strong drugs for the stroke pain every day, she knows this, I get up at 4;30-5:00 and by 5 in the afternoon I do get a little sleepy. Normally i plan for this by taking a nap. BUT tuesday there was a meeting in the morning and one at night, I was the only candidate there.  So I'm 66, had a stroke, disabled, my DD-214 says disability. Is this some sort of new campaign position criticizing the disabled? 

 

please pass this on to all members of LC, All members of Space Coast Patriots, All members of BREC, all members of the Ronald Reagan Club. All members of Beth Youngs North Brevard women, Roger at ACT, and Matt at the Tea Party.

 

This is exactly what a liberal masquerading as a Conservative Republican does.  It's PC bull crap.

 

A man looking in the mirror thinking he is a girl is not "gender dysmorphia" it is a serious possibly treatable mental defect.   Just suppose you looked in the mirror and thought were Abraham Lincoln and were sure of it: you would be in Circles Of Care that same day.   Thinking you are Lincoln is less serious a defect than thinking you are a woman.

 

Please every one pass this on!!!

 

Sincerely,

Richard Charbonneau

420 PORT ROYAL BLVD.
 
Satellite Beach Fl 32937 

Cell[masked]

Political advertisement paid for and approved by Richard Charbonneau, candidate for Brevard County School Board, District 3

 


From: Ed Priselac <[address removed]>
To: Ed <[address removed]>
Cc: Scott Ellis <[address removed]>; Connie Smith <[address removed]>; Pat Pasley <[address removed]>; Martin Adams <[address removed]>; Randal Agostini <[address removed]>; Peter Fusscas <[address removed]>; Barbara Knick <[address removed]>; Dave Pasley <[address removed]>; David Norman <[address removed]>; Shirley Severin <[address removed]>; Beth Young <[address removed]>; Joyce Errecart <[address removed]>; John Weiler <[address removed]>; Skip Bollinger <[address removed]>; Karen J Fenske <[address removed]>; Richard Greco <[address removed]>; Bob White <[address removed]>; Margaret Goudelock <[address removed]>; Cheryl Lankes <[address removed]>; Rey Palmer <[address removed]>; Richard Charbonneau <[address removed]>; [address removed]
Sent: Wednesday, April 27,[masked]:51 AM
Subject: Re: FL Today: School board divided on LGBT policy - Amy Kneessy on Bill Mick stated said they were being told funding would be held back.

 

Amy Kneesy is an obvious prevaricator; she had the other two votes.

 

At the evening meeting, Thad was there for a photo op regarding the made-in-the USA Florida flag law.  

It’s coming up on election time, you know.  Ritch Workman—flag sponsor in the FL House--was also there, but he left before the 

photo op.

 

And Andy Ziegler was also gushing about Altman’s help in securing annual federal money for the Brevard School system.  Federal law and federal mandates were pushed hard by the individuals who were briefing the staff during the morning workshop.  

Monique is going to have a tough fight shoehorning Thad out next election.

 

The gentleman briefer let it be known that Obama was already planning to make the LGBTQ rights a federal dicta (As in a dictator dictating), strongly hinting, “why fight it.”

 

The lady briefer who had been interviewing and talking with students, principals, and teachers told the school board that these kids and the adults indicated to her there were already enough rules in place for bullying, etc.  Obviously, the rank-and-file were also disregarded by the board.

 

There was a paltry crowd at the “special” meeting.  About 6 spoke against, including Richard Charbonneau and me.

 

As I had predicted, Florida Today did their job in omitting any mention of the workshop or the “special” meeting.

And, I defy anyone to find in the agenda the purpose of the “special” meeting.  Only those of us who have been bird-dogging this issue, were aware. 

 

Now, any student--or adult, for that matter--that “identifies” as the opposite sex, has the right—without fear of repercussion—of acting as the opposite sex. 

 

One final admonishment:  Keep your eyes peeled—it will take awhile, but rest assured NAMBLA is lurking in the shadows, awaiting their turn in the “it’s okay" limelight.

 

Ed  

 

On Apr 27, 2016, at 8:50 AM, Skip B <[address removed]> wrote:

 

Re: Scott's comments...  "Yeah, what he said!"

 

 

 

Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5



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From: Scott Ellis <[address removed]> 
Date: 04/27/[masked]:44 AM (GMT-05:00) 
To: 'Connie Smith' <[address removed]>, 'Pat Pasley' <[address removed]> 
Cc: 'Martin Adams' <[address removed]>, 'Randal Agostini' <[address removed]>, 'Skip Bollinger' <[address removed]>, 'Peter Fusscas' <[address removed]>, 'Barbara Knick' <[address removed]>, 'Dave Pasley' <[address removed]>, 'David Norman' <[address removed]>, 'Shirley Severin' <[address removed]>, 'Beth Young' <[address removed]>, 'Joyce Errecart' <[address removed]>, 'John Weiler' <[address removed]>, 'Skip Bollinger' <[address removed]>, 'Karen Fenske' <[address removed]>, 'Richard Greco' <[address removed]>, 'Bob White' <[address removed]>, 'Margaret Goudelock' <[address removed]>, 'Cheryl Lankes' <[address removed]>, 'Rey Palmer' <[address removed]>, 'Ed Priselac' <[address removed]>, Richard Charbonneau <[address removed]>, [address removed], Richard Charbonneau <[address removed]> 
Subject: RE: FL Today: School board divided on LGBT policy - Amy Kneessy on Bill Mick stated said they were being told funding would be held back. 

Well, Amy Kneesy is full of baloney.  

 

Where is the document stating money will be withheld without an LGBT rule?  It will not exist.

 

What about the dozens of others of counties with no such ‘rule’?  Nothing.

 

Amy Kneesy did not have three votes?  It was a 3-2 vote.  Amy Kneesy was the swing vote.

 

There is no blackmail, no extortion, and it is not coming from the Federal Government.

 

This a policy she fully supports in charge of a scapegoat for voting for it.  Are people to be fooled to the bitter end?

 

After all these years everyone needs to learn to verify what any politician tells you when they claim anything is mandated by someone else and they are powerless to stop it.  Hogwash again.

 

Anyone here who believes Ms. Kneesy please ask her for the documents so they may be distributed.  Good luck.

 

How many times have we heard such pure unsubstantiated baloney called in (Andy Ziegler is as bad if not worse) on the radio with nothing to back it up?  Sales tax, Software Purchase, Corruption, School Closings, and the list goes on.

 

Do not be bamboozled.

 

Scott

 

From: Connie Smith [mailto:[address removed]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 26,[masked]:39 PM
To: Pat Pasley
Cc: Martin Adams; Randal Agostini; Skip Bollinger; Peter Fusscas; Scott Ellis; Barbara Knick; Dave Pasley; David Norman; Shirley Severin; Beth Young; Joyce Errecart; John Weiler; Skip Bollinger; Karen Fenske; Richard Greco; Bob White; Margaret Goudelock; Cheryl Lankes; Rey Palmer; Ed Priselac
Subject: Re: FL Today: School board divided on LGBT policy - Amy Kneessy stated said they were being told funding would be held back. 

 

I sent letters to all of them yesterday asking them to consider who is pushing this agenda...Equality Florida!  It is a statewide & nation wide agenda just type in Equality & any state.  On Bill Mick this morning Amy Kneessy stated said they were being told funding would be held back.  She said they didn't have 3 votes to stand up to the federal govt. & reject their agenda. 

This is what happens when all the money goes to the corrupt politicians in DC, and we rely on them for funding any program, Blackmail!  Extortion! 

Connie 

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On Apr 26, 2016, at 9:12 PM, Pat Pasley <[address removed]> wrote:

 

 

Fl Today:

School board divided on LGBT policy
Ilana Kowarski
, FLORIDA TODAY

After weeks of heated debate about whether Brevard Public Schools should add a clause to its non-discrimination and equal employment policies which would shield the gay community, the school superintendent and a 3-2 majority of Brevard County school board members expressed support for the concept of such an amendment. 

The consensus the majority reached was that a non-discrimination policy revision ought to be prepared for the school board, that the policy should receive a public hearing, that the revised policy should receive an up-or-down vote and that the issue should be resolved as soon as possible.

School board member Amy Kneessy, school board vice chair Misty Belford, school board chair Andy Ziegler, and Superintendent Desmond Blackburn each said they support the eventual passage of an amendment that would prohibit discrimination against lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender students and employees, whereas school board members John Craig and Karen Henderson voiced opposition.

Ziegler said the LGBT amendment, if it is approved, would not endorse or condone a particular worldview, but would instead foster mutual respect between those of differing beliefs. 

Blackburn said that "doing something extra" for the LGBT community does not hurt those outside of the community, and he said that he "unequivocally" recommended a non-discrimination policy to protect that community.Meanwhile, Superintendent Blackburn used a metaphor to explain why he supported the LGBT amendment, saying that when he cared for his lawn at home, he took extra care to water the dry patches of grass, and that students and staff in the LGBT community similarly needed extra care to ensure that they flourished in Brevard Public Schools.

Henderson and Craig both said they were opposed to revising the non-discrimination policy, and both argued that procedural changes would be sufficient to address concerns from the LGBT community.  Kneessy said that action on this issue was long overdue, and that she wanted a vote on this policy to happen before she leaves office.

Craig said the school district was not "mature enough" in its anti-bullying and equal employment policy enforcement to start focusing on additions to that policy, and he said that revisions to the current policy would complicate enforcement.

"Until we have those procedures in place, I am not in favor of adding those four words," Craig said.

All but one of the panelists of policy experts who spoke to the school board on behalf of the school district voiced strong support for the LGBT amendment, except for assistant superintendent Beth Thedy, who did not directly state her opinion on this issue, but simply reported constituent feedback she had received.

Mark Langdorf, director of employee benefits and risk management for Brevard Public Schools, said that there is no place in a school environment for homophobic slurs, and that reports of such slurs being exchanged between students were troubling. He said that the school district’s equal employment policy should classify discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity under the umbrella of sex discrimination, which is already prohibited.

Janean Knight, a resource teacher with Brevard Public Schools, said that the primary concern she has heard from LGBT students has been their perception that although most of their peers at school accept them, there are some adults at school who openly disapprove of them because of their LGBT status.

Knight said, "Their main concern was just feeling acknowledged and just feeling as if they belonged."

She said, “We have to provide acceptance and inclusion for all students.  If you walk down a hallway and eight students call you a name, and two follow you into your very next class, it’s very hard to learn.”Several school district staff members who spoke to the school board emphasized the importance of creating an inclusive school atmosphere, including Dawna Bobersky, director of exceptional student education and instructional, behavioral and psychological services.

Michael Boling, a litigation attorney for Brevard Public Schools, predicted that the inclusion of LGBT status in school district non-discrimination and equal employment policies would eventually be a federal requirement.

Boling said that, based on his reading of the Supreme Court's marriage decision and other case law, he believes that it is likely that LGBT students will be protected by federal civil rights statutes.

"I have yet to meet an individual on either side of this debate who disagrees with the idea that all kids matter, and I have yet to meet an individual on either side who disagrees with the idea that civil discourse ought to prevail," he said.At the beginning of the workshop, Superintendent Desmond Blackburn said that discussions of the LGBT policy amendment ought to begin with the following areas of consensus: compassion and civility.

The workshop was attended Brevard County residents of a variety of viewpoints, including those who have advocated for the LGBT amendment and those who have lobbied against it.  FLORIDA TODAY asked members of both groups to give their reactions to the workshop, but every amendment opponents who FLORIDA TODAY asked to interview declined that request for comment.  Several amendment advocates spoke with FLORIDA TODAY, including Lexi Wright, the president of Space Coast Pride.

"I am very optimistic and excited," she said.  "This has been a long journey.  We've been fighting for this for two years, and I think finally the school board has recognized that a message needs to be sent that all employees and students are valued."


On 4/26/2016 6:47 PM, Margaret Goudelock wrote:

I am extremely disappointed to send this email out to this group regarding the school board decision in today's workshop to consider policy revision to support the agenda of the LGBT community.  School board members led by chair Andy Ziegler and endorsed by Desmond Blackburn have seen to disregard the majority opinion expressed at the previous school board meeting with the discussion conducted today.
Other schools have discussed and voted down similar measures, yet they are coming under extreme pressure from groups such as the ACLU as in Marion County:
  
http://www.ocalapost.com/marion-county-school-board-supports-transgender-bathroom-ban/
  
Here is the article from Florida Today, though they have already revised the headline:
  
http://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/education/2016/04/26/lgbt-school-policy-workshop/83498348/
  
I would encourage emails to each school board member and Desmond Blackburn.
  
Amy Kneessy:  [address removed]
Andy Ziegler:   [address removed]
Misty Belford:  [address removed]
John Craig:      [address removed] 
Karen Henderson:  [address removed]
  
Desmond Blackburn:  [address removed]  
  
Thank you. 
  
Margaret Goudelock
  
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On Tue, 2/23/16, [address removed] <[address removed]> wrote:
  
 Subject: 5:30:Tues.Feb 23: Brevard School Board meeting
 To: "Barbara Knick" <[address removed]>
 Cc: "Pat Pasley" <[address removed]>, "Bob White" <[address removed]>, "Patti Dibella" <[address removed]>, "Joan Albert" <[address removed]>, "Dave Barton" <[address removed]>, "Ed Priselac" <[address removed]>, "Rey Palmer" <[address removed]>, "Cheryl Lankes" <[address removed]>, "Sherrie Flinn" <[address removed]>, "Margaret Goudelock" <[address removed]>, "Hamilton Boone" <[address removed]>, "Don Forward" <[address removed]>
 Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2016, 10:48 AM
 
 
 
 From: Club Zion
 <[address removed]>
 
 
 
 
   
           
           
            
         
         
           
     
         
             
                 
                     
                         
                                         
                         
                             
                                 
     
         
             
 
                 
                     
 
                         
 
                             
 
  
 
 You may or may not have known,
 the LGBT force was knocked down in Palm Bay a couple of
 weeks ago. What many do not know, they have a well-planned
 backup plan to radically change our community forever. There
 was a pre-hearing this week with the Brevard County School
 board and an actual hearing this TUESDAY February 23, at
 5:30.  This will take place at the Educational Services
 Facility, 2700 Judge Fran Jamieson Way, Viera, Florida
 32940.
 
  
 
 Many counties across the nation have caved to this force and
 have allowed the complete breakdown of moral and ethical
 boundaries to be placed upon our youth. OUR
 COMMUNITY NEEDS THE POWER OF PRAYER ON TUESDAY NIGHT FROM
 5:30 - 6:30. WE ALSO NEED YOU AND YOUR CHURCH TO SHOW UP AT
 THE HEARING (IF AVAILABLE)!! If the community pours
 out prayers and people on Tuesday night, we can stop this
 force!
 
  
 
 Impact This Will Have:
 
 - Some bible scripture reading will be considered a
 hate crime
 
 - boys who think they are gay / transgender will be
 allowed in girls bathrooms with no restrictions
 
 - Much more
 
  
 
 Specific Prayers:
 
 - For the Liberty Council (Christian Pro-Bono Attorney
 Network Defending This) to Prevail
 
 - For our school board to have the power and courage to
 stand up....NOTE!! If they do not allow the LGBT agenda, our
 school board members may have criminal charges brought
 against them!
 
 - God's spirit to rest upon our community and his angels
 to keep watch
 
  
 
 Action List For The Next 4 Days!
 
  
 
 - To enlist as many people to take time to pray
 
 - To enlist as many people as possible to send an email to
 school board members:
 
  
 
 Superintendent Desmond Blackburn [address removed]
 
 Misty Belford [address removed]
 
 John Craig [address removed]
 
 Amy Kneessy [address removed]
 
 Karen Henderson [address removed]
 
  
 
 Enlist as many people to come out on Tuesday night.
 
 Note: Enlist as many people as possible to speak (must sign
 in - at the school board) - If all they say is
 "NO" - It is still powerful - have the

 

 





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