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FW: Re: Libertarian Perspective

From: Guy G.
Sent on: Thursday, February 7, 2013 7:34 PM
 I had the exchange below with Ken Kaplan of the Libertarian Party - he has said would come to the River Edge Diner sometime.

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Subject: Re: Libertarian Perspective
Date: 2/7/13 7:32:12 PM
To: [address removed]


I'm all for volunteerism - and when it comes to things like feeding people I agree its preferable to government action.  I also agree that  private indiviuals and businesses should not be rewarded for making bad decisions, etc.

But to say there can't be any governent involvement at all in recovery efforts makes no sense to me. Take New Orleans - can anyone reaonably argue that the port of new orleans is a "local" issue? Or that only the private sector should be involved? The port is vital to our national economy, foreign trade, etc. I find it hard to believe that the Founding Fathers would argue with that.

I was corresponding with someone from the 10th Amendment Society recently. I very much believe in federalism , state's rights, etc. But I asked this person if he thought much of the Federal storm aid was unconstitutional - he said "Absolutely". I then asked him if states and localities could recover sufficiently without Federal aid, his answer - "Of course not". So there is a perfect example of ideology colliding head on with reality.

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:29 PM, [address removed] wrote:

I missed seeing this when you sent it, and just accidentally came across it  in my unread mail.  Voluntary efforts are always preferable to government  action, and the outpouring of short term support for Sandy victims demonstrated  that voluntarism works (I myself spent some time in a Hillside foodbank making  baloney and cheese sandwiches), but I respect the role of government in creating  and maintaining infrastructure.  Beyond that, and I felt the same way about  New Orleans, it is not the government's job to subsidize and reward bad  decisions at the expense of all taxpayers.  People who build and live close  to the ocean need to assume the risks that go along with that.  Yes, there  may be great benefits in normal times, but they must pay the price for that, by  building higher and stronger, or further from the shoreline, or insuring against  the loss.  The market will enforce the making of more sensible decisions,  by refusing to insure stupid ones, or only doing so at prohibitive prices.
Ken Kaplan
Maybe In a message dated 12/9/[masked]:51:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  [address removed] writes:
Hi Ken, its Guy from Lincoln Park again. I wanted to get your    perspective on disaster relief aid, in light of Hurricane Sandy, etc. Its    awfully hard to make the case for less government to people after a disaster    like that. From my point of view there is no doubt that private charities can    do a better job than FEM when it comes to supplying food, clothes, etc. But    then you get into housing (long term), and repairing infrastructure, etc. I    think there is some role for government to play - at least when it comes to    repairing roads, bridges, etc. Do you agree? Pewrsonally I think local and    state governments should do alot of the things that the Feds do now. But what    happens when towns and states are so devastated (and financially broke)? Is    there some role for the Federal Government to play? I say yes - maybe FEMA as    constituted should not exist, but there the Feds should play some role, if    needed. Hope to get your thoughts,  thanks,

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