Thanks all!

Jennifer, I really appreciate you reaching out as a practitioner.  I will give your office a call later to see what the rates and copays and such would be as I have always wanted to try chiropractor work at least a little.  I live in SF though, and the drive is absolute hell on my legs, so I will have to plan this more for the future when I'm healed a little better.

I DID however, make it to the doctor and acupuncture yesterday and monday and have some more info on what is going on.  The PA says it is likely I pulled the muscle/tissue around my lower quads, which is a common condition for runners and such.  It makes perfect sense because of how often I sit with my knee back, "stretching" the kneecap area.  However, Lyme is a hell of a contributor IMO cause I've never injured myself this bad from sitting, lol.

Knowing to keep my leg straight has helped a lot, as I am typing this I can feel a lot less pain.  Not bending me knee during sleep has been difficult, but I am making progress.  The PA ordered an MRI and hopefully I can't heal here and won't need some kind of surgery.

Susan, I sent a request to join that group.  Would love to come to the meeting on Sept 17th, if you're able to accept my request or email location info that would be cool!  

Angela,  thank you for the ice protocool!  I will try this in the next day or two if things aren't improving more.  It does sound harsh but also helpful!

Best,
Zach
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On Mon, 8/22/16, Jennifer Lanett <[address removed]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [East-Bay-L-E-A-P-S]­ Horrendous Knee Pain
 To: [address removed]
 Date: Monday, August 22, 2016, 8:12 PM
 
 HI Zak,  I am a low force chiropractor in
 Berkeley, I do gentle adjustments with an Activator
 instrument.  For the knees you might benefit from some
 therapuetic ultrasound therapy too.   I am not in network
 with Medi- Cal and sadly Medicare does not cover the initial
 cost with a chiropractor, but follow-up visits would have a
 copay.   If you are interested please call my office at
[masked].  
 I also have Lyme and am treating
 with bee venom therapy at home.  Using live bees
 successfully.  I can tell you that bee venom is highly
 anti-inflammatory, 100x stronger than cortisone, and offers
 relief from this respect in addition to killing the
 spirochetes.
 Anna Liisa posted the info on our
 BVT meetup group and the next meeting is Sept 17th in
 Oakland, a saturday afternoon.
 Jennifer Lanett
 
 
 www.honeybeehealers.­com 
 Beeswww.drlanett.com­
 
 
 
 
 On Mon, Aug 22, 2016
 at 4:49 PM, Myrna Patterson <[address removed]>
 wrote:
 Thanks all for so much
 caring and info!
 I’ll be away for a bit but will connect upon my
 return re: bee venom. I tried it twice. (Someone else
 administered it). My reactions were severe with only 3 bites
 and I practically tore my skin off with itching. I have a
 lot to learn, but am willing to try again. Wellness is
 appealing!
 Myrna
 On Aug 22, 2016, at 12:02 PM,
 Susan Bennett <East-Bay-L-E-A-P­-S-list@
 meetup.com> wrote:
 Hi
 Zach
 
 Take
 the time to go to the Bee Venom meetup. It took me 10 months
 to embrace this therapy, but once I started, I knew this was
 my saving grace. I had run out of money, home.. Even car...
 and a family support structure to continue seeing my LLMD,
 but I knew I had to keep treating or risked becoming super
 ill again. 
 
 It's
 the most amazing treatment of all... And I'm so glad I
 jumped for it ! 
 The
 help is there to get started. Connect with the group that
 Anna Liisa provided. There is also information on Facebook
 group "Bee Venom Therapy for Lyme Disease" you can
 access and chat with others. There are valuable resources on
 the "info" page in this group... Protocols and
 videos, etc. 
 
 It's
 not as hard as it seems... It's just about getting
 started and doing it slowly and listening to your body and
 needs as you heal. We all know Lyme and co's can be
 tricky, but the bee's are more than affordable and give
 results !! 
 
 Feel
 free to reach out if you need some questions asked...
 Those... Like Ellie Lobel, Anna Lisa, and Jennifer Lanett
 and many other bee venom pioneers helped me tremendously to
 get the courage and wisdom to
 begin. 
 
 Good
 luck and hope you are feeling
 better 
 
 Susan
 B.
 
 
 
 
 
 Sent
 from my iPhone
 On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Zakk
 <East-Bay-L-E-A-P­-S-list@
 meetup.com> wrote:
 
 Thanks for the
 replies everyone :)  What a great community there is here,
 I'm really grateful for it.
 Do you have any more info on the bee venom therapy?  Like
 where I would order it from or a page with some advice and /
 or how it works?
 
 I cannot afford that kind of money for chiropractors
 unfortunately.  I can't even afford $30/visit for the
 acupuncture school I go to.  I'm living on disability
 SSDI which is very, very little.  It really makes me wonder
 what all the Lyme sufferers out there without money are
 doing to manage.  I bet many, many people don't get
 diagnosed.
 
 Anyway, gonna keep resting here and make an appointment with
 the MD.  Gonna try acupuncture too if I can make it over
 there.  Fortunately a couple friends came by this weekend
 to play video games and take my mind off things :)
 
 -Zach
 
 
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 On Sun, 8/21/16, Sarah Regenspan <East-Bay-L-E-A-P­-S-list@
 meetup.com> wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: [East-Bay-L-E-A-P-S]­ Horrendous Knee Pain
 To: East-Bay-L-E-A-P­-S-list@
 meetup.com
 Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016, 12:38 PM
 
 Hello
 Zakk,
 I haven't tried it yet but I am intending on
 trying Bee Venom Therapy shortly. It is especially
 effective
 for joint pain. Many people cure arthritis with it. A
 comprehensive protocol for Lyme & Cos has been
 developed
 that is very cheap to do at home on your own (like $50 a
 month or less.) Several people in this group are doing it
 with great results. It's a great option for those of us
 who are too broke for LLMDs.
 All the best for your healing!
 Sarah
 On Sun, Aug 21, 2016
 at 1:34 PM, Zakk <East-Bay-L-E-A-P­-S-list@
 meetup.com>
 wrote:
 Hey
 folks,
 
 I'm reaching out here cause I'm kind of at a loss
 what to do.  I've had lyme sympoms and a (mostly)
 positive IGM test since 2009 and have been managing pretty
 well (can't afford treatment) with my symptoms.  The
 knee pain stuff I'm used to, and while it keeps me from
 walking usually (I use a wheelchair) I can go to the
 bathroom and stand for brief periods of time and the pain
 is
 bearable if I don't "overdo it"
 
 
 
 Well, I definitely "overdid it" by going out too
 much 3 weeks ago.  I was really bad to myself and even
 took
 some pain killers to keep going out to some shows I wanted
 to see.  Super stupid.
 
 
 
 Now my knee has been feeling like it is dislocated or
 something ever since.  I've barely been able to leave
 me house at all on my electric wheelchair even, and the
 pain
 is something horrendous.  It's shooting / stabbing
 pain
 and I cannot bear weight on it (crawling to the bathroom
 and
 stuff right now).  any sort of pushing or bending on my
 knee cap hurts too, like sleeping sideways or sitting up on
 my knees (which is making crawling even harder).
 
 
 
 I'm thinking I should finally go see my regular (non
 lyme) doctor, who is usually an idiot, but will order me
 tests when I want.  He doesn't believe in Lyme so I
 don't really go there with him.  But maybe I can get
 an
 x-ray or something? I dunno.  I have Medicare / Medi-cal
 so
 my options are limited.
 
 
 
 Anybody else experience this?  I was waiting for it to go
 away with time and rest (or die down a little) but I'm
 concerned that that isn't happening.
 
 
 
 -Zach
 
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 meetup.com> wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: Re: [East-Bay-L-E-A-P-S]­ nasal infared lights
 
 To: East-Bay-L-E-A-P-S-l­ist@
 meetup.com
 
 Date: Friday, August 19, 2016, 2:06 PM
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 Laila, 
 
 I'm sorry I wasn't able to come to the
 
 meeting last night! I'm having a difficult time
 getting
 
 rid of marcons and sure wish I had been there to hear
 more
 
 about your experience. Did you clear it with one of these
 
 lights? I would love to find out more! 
 
 Thanks,Grace 
 
 On Aug 19, 2016, at 1:58 PM, josephine coatsworth
 <East-Bay-L-E-A-P­-S-list@
 meetup.com>
 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Thank you
 
 Laila - good to meet you last night, and these links look
 
 super interesting- I will put them to use!
 
 best, Josephine
 
 On Fri, Aug 19, 2016
 
 at 12:57 PM, Laila Solaris <East-Bay-L-E-A-P­-S-list@
 meetup.com>
 
 wrote:
 
 Hello, it was lovely to meet everyone
 
 last night!  I'm so sorry that I did not remember
 
 the names of the folks interested in this, but here are
 some
 
 links to intranasal lights for healing Marcons and other
 
 nose and ear issues.  I will add a cheap and a pricey
 
 listing, and a talk on comparing the two.  I have a
 
 cheap one, myself.
 
 
 
 thanks for the info and companionship,
 
 Laila
 
 
 
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