Hi Joe, I am invited expert by the W3C and I can ensure you that there
is  0  Semantic Web discussion going on in the HTML5 working group.
Most of the discussion is browser related and couldn't be more
conventional.HTML 4.1/2 would be better description. Ian Hickson from
Google and David Hyatt from Apple drive the HTML5 discussion and as
mentioned from a Semantic Web point of view there is little to gain.

But on the other hand if you look at Semantic Web Standards the W3C
was enormously successful in ratifying technologies such as RDF, RDFS,
OWL, SPARQL etc and we now have workable set of recommendations for
product development.

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/

Best,
Marco

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:32 AM, Joe Devon <[address removed]> wrote:
> There is an interesting article I thought the group would like to read:
> http://alistapart.com/articles/webstandards2008
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> She discusses the sad state of the W3C. It's crazy that we have a web with a wikipedia, a google and countless bleeding edge technologies making do with antiquated protocols and the best we can do is wait endlessly for standards boards to come to some conclusion.
>
> Here's some excerpts from the article.
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> "A number of clever lads...believe HTML needs to evolve semantically as well as functionally (forms, for example). WHATWG worked quickly, proving that independent organizations without funding could get things done quickly and well.
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> The WHATWG's work is now the basis for the W3C's new and "open" HTML5 Working Group, which...is a "fresh hell." However, the WHATWG and the HTML5 Working Group continue to work separately despite sharing many resources.
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> We've tried stuff. WaSP, WSG, and so on. These groups have assisted with education and outreach, and are the glue of our community. But these groups also risk becoming irrelevant (some already think of them that way) since they appear to be doing nothing to solve the web's fundamental problems.
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> Should we create yet another group? That was my first thought, but that just adds another layer of confusion to the problem.
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> How do we fix the web? Discuss.
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> Can we figure out how to form these three circles into some working mechanism?...Comment thoughtfully on blog posts. Gain WaSP's attention and get involved. Ask to come to W3C meetings. If we don't do something soon, I fear the web will become more of a commodity than a gift.
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> We do not have an interoperable web. What we have is a glut of proprietary, closed, and protected stuff. While it's sophisticated and interesting sometimes, it goes against the heart of what we came here to build in the first place: an accessible, interoperable web for all.
> "
>
> Since she says discuss, let's discuss.
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