Ani,

I already had a chance to speak to your president via e-mail  
yesterday. We shared our respective opinions, and he assured me that  
the particular approach I experienced from one of your team members  
is not the norm or goal for your company.

As I've reiterated to many people in this discussion (on and off- 
list), I have no problem with recruiters posting openly in this or  
any other appropriate forum.  I took issue with one particular  
approach that I found to be both disingenuous and disruptive to my  
business and employees. By responding as strongly as I did, I think I  
made my point that such behavior should not and will not be tolerated  
silently by business owners such as myself.

Now that this matter has been brought to the attention of the  
responsible people and addressed appropriately , I consider it to be  
closed for my part.

/M.



On Jan 8, 2008, at 11:21 AM, ani wrote:

> Morten,
>
> I have forwarded on your comments to our President, and he has told me
> that he will immediately contact you to talk to you about what  
> happened
> and how we could better handle what happened.
>
>
> I can only tell you that our reputation is our lifeline, and certainly
> we aren't out here to be perceived, let alone do things, as "slimy,
> unethical douchebags".
>
>
> We definitely want to hear your experience with us in depth and seeing
> what we need to about it from inside out company.  Could you please
> contact Felix at your earliest convenience?
>
>
> In the meanwhile, I can re-assure you that my intentions here are to
> help people in their careers, whether it is helping them with a  
> resume,
> giving them our outlook on the job market, showing them opportunities
> that match ONLY their career goals and objectives, or even helping
> people with best interview strategies (and I'm willing to do this even
> if it isn't for one of the companies we represent).  And the only  
> way I
> can prove this to you is by doing it.
>
>
> Have a Wonderful day!
>
>
>
> Ani Ilawole
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Subject: [ruby-84] Pinpoint Resources = Unethical Slimy Douchebags
>
> So,
>
> I am  part-owner of a small Ruby on Rails shop in downtown Los
> Angeles. I just received a call from someone claiming to have an
> "important personal call" for one my developers.
>
> I sensed something was fishy when the guy refused to say who he was
> or what it was regarding, so I actually stood next to my employee
> while he was taking it.
>
> So it turns out it was a recruiter from Pinpoint trying to snatch one
> my guys who repeatedly assured that guy that he was happy in his job
> here, and planned to stay here for a long time. Being the nice kid he
> is, my guy offered to point him to some other people who might be
> interested. My employee also asked were he might have gotten his
> contact info from, and he replied workingwithrails.com­, which my
> employee thought was odd since that mentions nothing about him
> looking for other opportunities.
>
> I decided to call the guy back to tell him what I thought of these
> practices, and the guy said "well, actually I was referred to your
> employee by a friend of his who said he's looking for a new job".
> Nice one, since seconds before he admitted to scraping my employees
> *work* number from a profile on workingwithrails.com­ and cold-calling.
>
> So, not only questionable ethics but also an outright liar.
>
> Anyway, I think this serves as a great reminder of why recruiters,
> especially Pinpoint, are generally scum and why any software company
> worth its salt does its own recruiting.
>
> /M.
>
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