Re: [newtech-1] offshoring/onshoring and fta
| From: | Julian |
| Sent on: | Thursday, April 23, 2015, 11:58 AM |
Neal-- I'm doing something that no one has made a tv show about and/or started offshoring the labor. So hopefully I'll be okay here for a while. Still not six figures though. Thanks to whoever made the Silicon Valley trip suggestion.
Julian
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On Apr 23, 2015, at 3:27 AM, Jay Melone <[address removed]> wrote:I'm buying a riding mower and starting a landscaping company!<image.png>Jay MeloneOn Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 5:17 AM, neal Conlon <[address removed]> wrote:Julian - what are you doing?
I want to open a pizzeria!
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> On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:09 PM, Julian <[address removed]> wrote:
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> Tech sucks. Getting money for developing or design without throwing your whole life at it seems almost impossible in my experience. I've been doing something else lately and thank fuck!
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>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 4:27 PM, neal Conlon <[address removed]> wrote:
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>> I think this is a great topic! Full disclosure I have access to over 1k developers in Hyderabad India (where Monster, Hot Jobs, Verizon, Google, and Microsoft have HUGE delivery centers.
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>> IMO the ONLY way that the world of outsourcing works is leveraging different regions for the things they are good at and being able to leverage that price point in that region.
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>> My challenge with US folks is that there are a lot of them that want a high dollar rate for low skilled work and that shouldn’t be ok to settle like that.
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>> I'm a techie guy and I tell all my US based people the day any task becomes repetitive kick it over to our team, train them, and have them master it. This does two things: it gives the offshore team new projects and it frees up more time for my teams in the US to do more strategy/planning/ and value add projects.
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>> If I could downstream work from the US to Romania to India to Vietnam from a price point perspective that would be awesome!
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>> I also used to run Morgan Stanley's investment banking desktop publishing and we ran a 24/7 global operation with over 2000 people and we leveraged skillsets from design to calling all over the globe and leveraged price points as well. You couldn’t beat the process and you could never do that in the US.
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>> To circle this back to the politics our "leaders" (poor use of this word) wouldn’t even know where to begin on this topic, they just want Jethro to keep his trailer and be a sheep.
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>> *off my soap box
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>> Neal Conlon
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>> Subject: RE: [newtech-1] offshoring/onshoring and fta
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>> Yep Ed, I agree.
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>> My comments was more around regular workers, and the hope that newtech people are enlightened and happy to see everyone get a fair go based on their merits.
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>> - https://www.facebook.com/LivePoliticalChat/posts/867592393311876
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>> Cheers,
>> Dean
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>> No one is getting experienced programmers for under $1 an hour in Vietnam. This is a fantasy. Sorry for the CEOs on the list that are thinking, "Get me to Hanoi ____ NOW! ;-)
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>> Not sure the current rate, please do some homework. Our photoshop guys were getting $65/Hr in Bulgaria. And at least $200 a day in the EU. They are as good as any Valley coders I've ever met, even better.
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>> And Russians? __ they can out price NYC rates for sure. ;-)
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