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Re: Re: [San-Fernando-Valley-Tea-Party-Patriots]­ Counterfeit Meeting Scheduled

From: Greg M.
Sent on: Thursday, August 29, 2013, 5:56 PM
Hi Karen,
 
You raised a good point and I agree with your concerns. This forum was used only to openly ask a question which will remain unanswered. I was just informed that the possibilities you mentioned will remain speculation as nothing concerning this matter will be disclosed.
 
Regards,
 
Greg
 
 
On 08/29/13, karen<[address removed]> wrote:
 
Perhaps those of you involved in this can take this to a different means of communicating?  WHile I am interested in the outcome and so on, it seems to me that until it is known if a) this was someone starting another group, b) it was a malicious hijacking of the great work Karen has done, or c) something else, I'm not sure what an open forum such as this can accomplish.

Just my 2 cents  
Karen




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From: Greg Mamishian <[address removed]>
To: San-Fernando-Valley-Tea-Party-Patriots-list <San-Fernando-Valley-Tea-[address removed]>
Sent: Thu, Aug 29,[masked]:01 am
Subject: Re: Re: [San-Fernando-Valley-Tea-Party-Patriots] Counterfeit Meeting Scheduled

Hi Tom,
 
Someone else wrote that. My only comment was on the spacing and punctuation.
 
Greg
 
 
On 08/29/13, Tom Adams<[address removed]> wrote:
 
Greg,
 
Is this what you meant to write:
 
Who's the leader?
 
Is this for real?
 
[or do]  you have another false flag
 
war coming
 
 unconstitutional tax agency harrasing people
 
the Nazi Stazie Adminastration(sic) listining(sic) to every damn thing.
 
Were funding al_ciada(sic) blowing off chemical weapons & killing Christian and jews with your tax dollar
 
an assinine(sic) Valley republician group promoting legalizing illegals
 
no one is fighting Common Core being put in the schools
 
tea party pushing a liberal mayor
 
my 9 year old has it more together than this
 
Ive been reading all day
 
This is why Ventura TP has it more together no egos.
 
read the CitiziansJournal.US and truly join the fight
 
INFOWARS.Com
 
 grow up
 
everyone needs to do something including having a damn meeting .
 
Ether(sic) we hang togther....or we hang seperate(sic)
 
I applaude(sic) any one that gets in the arena
 
 
There's a lot of concepts in that post!
 
We should not forget any of them...
 
Let me know what I screwed up in transcription!


On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 4:42 PM, gene bolsoni <[address removed]> wrote:
.. Whos the leader ... Is this for real you have  another false flag war coming unconstitutional tax agency harrasing people .the Nazi Stazie Adminastration listining to every damn thing. Were funding al_ciada blowing off chemical weapons & killing Christian and jews with your tax dollar an assinine Valley republician group promoting legalizing illegals no one is fighting Common Core being put in the schools,tea party pushing a liberal mayor my 9 year old has it more together than this Ive been reading all day This is why Ventura TP has it more together no egos. read the CitiziansJournal.US and truly join the fight INFOWARS.Com grow up everyone needs to do something including having a damn meeting  .Ether we hang togther....or we hang seperate I applaude any one that gets in the arena

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Sent: August 28,[masked]:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [San-Fernando-Valley-Tea-Party-Patriots] Counterfeit Meeting Scheduled


Another thing Tom,


Creating another group, meeting at the same place as Karen's and with a similar or the same name would definitely be horning in on her territory. It would be like two Starbucks or other brand name companies opening up next door to one another...


Nancy

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On Aug 28, 2013, at 1:00 PM, Tom Adams <[address removed]> wrote:




Of course not...
 
But why not discuss it with her first?
 
I think we are very close to a split due to the enormous success we have had so far...
 
I'm sure Karen would have excellent input and warnings about pitfalls...
 
 



On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Nancy <[address removed]> wrote:


Hi Tom,


If that was the case, anyone wanting to "splinter off and start their own group" needed to do it under Karen's permission and auspices and after discussing it with her. 



Best,


Nancy

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On Aug 28, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Tom Adams <[address removed]> wrote:







I was just pointing out process...
 
It might be good if those who are unable to meet on Saturday afternoons had their own group or splinter of out group...






On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Greg Mamishian <[address removed]> wrote:





I agree, Tom...
Everyone should be totally free to openly and honestly speak their peace.

 
Greg



 
 

On 08/28/13, Tom Adams<[address removed]> wrote:
 




Don't be absurd!
 
We need your input!






On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Mike <[address removed]> wrote:




Well…I’ve had as much as I can take of this issue…PLEASE REMOVE me from your email list.

 

 

From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Greg Mamishian
Sent: Tuesday, August 27,[masked]:30 PM


To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: Re: [San-Fernando-Valley-Tea-Party-Patriots] Counterfeit Meeting Scheduled





 




Hi Karen,


 


Was this person USING the name of your group AS IF they were your group? Could you please clarify exactly what actually happened. I'm sure it would help anyone else here to better understand. And if they did misrepresent themselves... Who did it?  Please don't protect their identity. That's so politically correct.


 


Regards,


 


Greg



 


 


On 08/27/13, Karen Kenney<[address removed]> wrote:

 







Dear "Tea Pots,"


Please know that the integrity of our group, our principles and our identity requires us being aware that whatever we do or say has impact. Our group is welcoming; our principles are Conservative-Constitutional and our identity is the San Fernando Valley Patriots. That's a lot in this political environment in California. Any attempt to counterfeit or misrepresent even our meetings may be used by those with oppositional means or mood to discredit us.


This is still America. People can form their own group, build it upon their own principles and schedule their meetings whenever they wish.


Thank God.


Our burden is to be clear, truthful and to color within the lines of the reality that is politics in the Golden State.


That's a long-winded way of saying: we are who we are and welcome those who wish to join us in good faith to do what we do:)


Best,




Karen Kenney, coordinator SFV Patriots


 




In a message dated 8/27/[masked]:15:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [address removed] writes:






Whatever you do, whoever does it, make sure it doesn't flop...


 


We need all the gumption we have, facing the next four years...


 


 







 

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Greg Mamishian <[address removed]> wrote:




 Hi Gene,


 


In messages like this it's easy to be misunderstood. I'm not against people forming othergroups. I was only curious as to what ideas this as yet unidentified person had for their meetings. For this is just one way Americans innovate.


 


Regards,


 


Greg


 


 


On 08/27/13, gene bolsoni<[address removed]> wrote:

 






Dont you no how to reply ? Who cares if some one has a meeting mabey it will be good I think ill have one

--- Original Message ---

From: "Greg Mamishian" <[address removed]>
Sent: August 27,[masked]:02 AM
 To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: Re: [San-Fernando-Valley-Tea-Party-Patriots] Counterfeit Meeting Scheduled


So who did it? I'd like to have a talk with them.


 
Greg
 
 



On 08/26/13, Karen Kenney<[address removed]> wrote:


 



Dear Greg,
I don't mind people organizing a tea party group. I do mind them taking our established name--especially since we're doing so much to protect it legally.
Best,
Karen


 


 In a message dated 8/26/2013 1:32:03 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [address removed] writes:

please keep me advised as well...


 


 Thanks...



On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Greg Mamishian <[address removed]> wrote:


Hi Karen,


 
Malice is highly unlikely. Maybe whoever posted the second meeting saw how crowded the regular meeting usually is and wanted to start another group. Personally I don't think there can be too many groups, although Sunday at 7 is dinnertime, and they might not have the room free of regular patrons.
 Â 
If you tell me who it is, I'll be happy to talk with them to find out what's up. You got me curious now... ;  )
 
Take Care,
 
Greg

 
 



On 08/26/13, Karen Kenney<[address removed]> wrote:


 








Dear Tea Pots:

Someone, I hope without malice, accessed the scheduling for group events and issued a meeting at Coco's at 7 p.m. on Sunday. I have sent the new "member" a request to stop. You know that we meet on the 2nd Saturday of each month (except April and December).

We have our schedule because it accommodates the most people, plus I work evenings and most Saturday mornings. We do it not to exclude participation, especially where there are so many other tea party groups with various meeting days--including the Los Angeles/Santa Monica tea party that meets on Sunday mornings.

I thank Tom for notifying me of the meetup.com mailing. If this happens, again, I will remove the person from our mailing list.

Blessings in Liberty!

Karen Kenney, coordinator SFV Patriots





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