It's better Outdoors

4.9•5446 ratings

Philadelphia, PA, US

3,806 members · Public group

What we’re about

This is a group for anyone that loves to adventure outdoors and wants to do it with other people, even if they are complete strangers. If you are between 21 and 60 and like to hike, camp, raft, ski, board, travel and other activities this is the group for you! If you're only looking for happy hours, this isn't the group for you, this is NOT a singles group. We plan happy hours now and then to get the members of the group together in social settings to discuss future adventures - some good plans can be made over a beer or two! And all good adventures end with a drink!
It's better with someone else...
It's better with beer/drinks...
It's Better Outdoors...
Come join us!

Our motto is : "We don't talk quietly, hike slowly, go to bed early or only have just one drink"

Please make sure to read the Waiver (General Release of Liability). By joining the group you accept the policy decribed here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1x-HMpzi-4XKZPa-7XTk-nQIa-v0CwZj5kgehs7mSnGw/edit?usp=sharing

Note: this is NOT a beginners group and events are typically geared towards those with some experience usually at an intermediate or advanced level depending on the event - ie: we don't hike slow and don't do short hikes

Please make sure you also read the 'What is expected of you' as described here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C3oqyau0EjNVnHyKoc1DH0fi5PmLlB7wVH4-eSykZUg/edit?usp=sharing

Joining the group also means you're ok with being photographed during adventures - we always take pics: for the memories and for promotion of future events (we can't always accommodate a 'no photo' request)

This is a real meetup group, this is NOT a business nor am I promoting a business and I do not promote businesses. If you see an event posted that means that I will be there to meet you, greet you, do the activity with you and have a drink with you during or afterwards. We are also not a networking group and do not tolerate solicitation of members.

We welcome anyone in their 20s - 50s of any gender, race or nationality. But please email the event organizer first if you want to bring a dog...sometimes they are ok and sometimes not.

Other important information:
Process Should an issue arise during an event: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FBfABUk5UJSAkWnlF41F3PiZFSLUsp7FcNwM2GXY084/edit?usp=sharing

Payment Instructions:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WpIAHKrt_Scl-6y8yIlxdyiIoQLEgvkQPnlfNfGATNc/edit?usp=sharing

General Refund Policy:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sjjmzjvAI18tVuhmBAlSZJiGVzxWmsRO1rv1T_iNjuo/edit?usp=sharing

How to make sure your email settings are correct:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oNZkaEOstTvb1vlHK0BeRwCBpbc33zvfQq_cM64pOsE/edit?usp=sharing

Car Pooling Guidelines:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qXaJ8-sn0ue_BqHbUW5Def3VJrIBHrnqyP9-gnUh4wU/edit?usp=sharing

Featured event

$480.00

Sat, Feb 28, 2026 · 08:30 EST

Killington trip! Hotel rooms only - drive yourself, lift ticket deal*

Cascades Lodge, 58 Old Mill Rd, Killington, VT, US

WITH OUR ROOM RESERVATIONS THE HOTEL IS SOLD OUT THIS WEEKEND WHICH MEANS TO COME ON THIS TRIP YOU HAVE TO OFFICIALLY JOIN THIS TRIP, YOU CAN'T BOOK ON YOUR OWN
I need to give any unsold rooms back to the hotel as of December 20 - you won't be able to email me on Dec 21 asking if there are any additional rooms - you won't get one, unless someone drops out

Killington offers LOTS to do so you don't have to just ski or board with us to come...hiking, snowshoeing, snowmobiling, etc
for the non-skiers, type this into google to see results: non-ski activities in killington in winter

We are going up Saturday to avoid the crowds on the mountain
and we are returning Monday afternoon - we should get a lot of skiing in on Sunday and Monday before leaving with the hopefully smaller crowds
but it also gives us a great 2 day lift ticket price - see below

We are staying at the Cascades Lodge, which many will know from the XNM kickoff trips
Cascades offers rooms with double beds and a pool and a hot tub
more about Cascades: https://www.cascadeslodge.com/

The plan:
Saturday Feb 28 - drive yourself up
Saturday night - out and about
Sunday - your day to adventure/ski - there are shuttles to the mountain or ubers to take you on adventures
Sunday Night - Pizza Party at Cascades (more info to come)
Monday - you must check out and load up your stuff before going to the mountain but they can store gear at the hotel until you are ready to leave and you can use the hotel restrooms to change and repack if needed

COMMUNICATION:
I need everyone's cell # and home email address when you sign up (I don't have access to that data as an organizer) - this is only for specific trip communications if needed, no general meetup messages will be sent here
If you sign up for a trip, it's your responsibility to check meetup emails and comments on the event for any news, notes and updates. Make sure you're getting emails from Meetup
2 weeks before the trip I'll start a Whatsapp chat for anyone that wants to join - I'll add everyone, unless you tell me not to

Costs per person:
double room (2 double beds) - $340
single room (2 beds to yourself) - $660
triple room* (2 double beds, so you are sharing beds) - $275
quad room* (2 double beds, so you are sharing beds) - $245
roommates: if you have one in mind, let me know. I will try not to pair random strangers up but it may come to that if needed - make sure to let me know if you are ok with that. I will ask first. Feel free to say NO. I won't mix genders in rooms for random roommates.
Full refund for any reason until January 9; After that a refund will only be issued if someone can take your spot. Drop outs after Feb 20 will only get 90% refund even if someone takes your spot. NO REFUNDS after Feb 26.
Deposit due when you sign up: $100 venmo: @Gary-Kiefer
Balance due January 9
if the balance due isn't paid by Jan 16, there'll be a 5% late fee - I don't want your money, I want you to pay on-time

Please answer all the questions in the pop up when you RSVP

*if you sign up for a triple or quad room you need to arrange your own roommates - I will not assign random people to share beds AND if you sign up for a triple or quad and someone drops out and you can't replace them, you have be willing to pay the higher price for a double or triple however it works out

costs include 2 nights lodging
lift tickets or any other adventures are on your own - Killington is on the IKON pass if you have it
We got a great deal on a 2 day lift ticket for those that don't have IKON - just $187 for 2 days! Will need to be purchased ahead of time - more to come on that
Pizza party will be a separate cost item once arranged