What we’re about
Fitness-first, SoCal-based, community-focused, and challenging by design.
From canyon climbs to rugged ridgelines, we treat Southern California’s parks as our gym. Our hikes are long, challenging, and purposeful—built to complement strength training, running, and other fitness routines. We don’t just cover miles—we train, grow, and build grit together.
We’re a community of fitness-minded hikers who thrive on effort and camaraderie. Most of our routes range 9–13 miles with 1,500–2,000+ ft of elevation, moving at a moderate-to-fast pace. What began as “Casual Hikes” shifted after the Big Fat Incline—since then, we’ve leaned into the grind and never looked back.
Who Should Join
- Intermediate to advanced hikers seeking a workout-level pace
- Strength trainers, runners, and endurance athletes who see hiking as part of their training
- Fit beginners ready to test their limits
- Anyone who values camaraderie, consistency, and the outdoors as much as fitness
What to Expect
- Strenuous hikes averaging 9–13 miles
- 1,500–2,000+ ft elevation gain
- Moderate to fast pace (we move with purpose, not for picnics)
- Sub-groups by pace—find your stride, or hike solo if needed
- Optional shorter, less intense routes led by co-organizers
- High energy, encouragement, and shared progress
Upcoming events (4+)
See all- Dreaded + Billy Goat | Optional Santiago, Line Shack (~7-9 mi, Moderate Pace)27412 Portola Pkwy, Lake Forest, CA
Get a sneak peek here: Dreaded Hill + Billy Goat
Join us for a challenging morning on the trails! This moderate-paced loop features the notorious climb up Dreaded Hill, followed by a rugged, uneven stretch through Billy Goat trail—both known for their difficulty and trail variety. Though the route isn’t long in distance, the sustained effort and terrain make it a highly effective workout for building stamina, leg strength, and trail fitness. The mix of elevation, uneven footing, and steady pacing provides a challenge that leaves you feeling stronger—mentally and physically.
For those who’d like to go a bit farther, we’ll have an optional extension through Santiago Ranch, Line Shack, and Sage Scrub trails. This add-on offers a steady effort with scenic views and extra mileage for anyone wanting a little more.
Disclaimer: Not So Casual Hikes are fast-paced, challenging outings designed for hikers in great shape who know their limits and show up prepared. Our organizers are volunteers—not guides—and cannot be responsible for your pace, navigation, or safety. We don’t provide sweepers, and the group may not wait if you fall behind. You might finish with new friends or on your own—and either way, it's part of the journey. By signing up, you take full responsibility for your fitness, gear, hydration, and navigation. We don’t tailor pace or routes for individuals, and we don’t make space for complaints. What we do offer is a supportive, like-minded community that thrives on grit, respect, and pushing the edge together. If that speaks to you—we’re glad you found us. Let's move.
Details:
• Meeting Place: Parking lot adjacent to Starbucks and Wahoo’s.
• Difficulty: Moderate – based on distance, elevation, and pace.
• Distance / Elevation / Duration: Approximately 7-9 miles, ~1,578 ft elevation gain, estimated time 2.5–3 hours at a moderate to fast pace.
• Note: This is a group workout. There is no designated leader or sweeper - come prepared to navigate and keep pace.Essentials:
- Traction hiking shoes
- Plenty of water (electrolytes recommended)
- Quick snacks
- Sunglasses & sunscreen
- Hat or sun protection
Route:
We’ll begin with a flat warm-up for the first ~1.5 miles before the workout kicks in with the ascent up Dreaded Hill. From there, we’ll loop through Four Corners, Billy Goat, Cactus Hill, Sage, and Serrano Cow.For those wanting a bit more, we’ll include an optional extension through Santiago Ranch and Line Shack—a scenic, moderate stretch that adds mileage and training value before reconnecting with Serrano Trail and returning to the parking lot. Expect a mix of exposed climbs, technical footing, and steady trail transitions throughout the route.
📍 Download the route map for navigation here: https://www.alltrails.com/explore/map/dh-bg-vulture-389bc7b?u=i&sh=pxabuh
About Whiting Ranch: Explore the natural beauty of Limestone Canyon & Whiting Ranch Wilderness Park, spanning 4,300 acres of diverse landscapes. From riparian and oak woodland canyons to rolling grassland hills, immerse yourself in the stunning scenery, including the captivating Red Rock Canyon. Witness remnants of the park's cattle ranching past as it rejuvenates from the 2007 Santiago Fire.
For more information:Directions: If traveling south on Fwy 405 or 5, exit Bake Pkwy, turn left on Bake Pkwy, and continue for about 4.5 - 5 miles. Turn right at Portola and right at the light of Glenn Ranch (park at the Starbucks coffee parking). For those heading north on 5, consider exiting at Lake Forest and proceed toward Foothill Ranch, following similar directions as mentioned above.
Punctuality & RSVP Etiquette:
We kindly request that all participants aim to be punctual. Our group will wait for a grace period of 5 minutes past the scheduled start time for any latecomers. However, if you realize that you're running late, please inform us through the message board. This will help us know to wait a bit longer for you and ensure we don't leave anyone behind.
If your plans change and you're unable to attend after RSVPing, please cancel your RSVP before the event begins. This consideration allows us to manage the group size effectively and opens up space for others who might be on a waiting list.REMINDER: By joining the meetup, you agree to Meetup Terms of Service, releasing the Organizer, Co-Organizer, and Assistant Organizers from any liability related to incidents during gatherings.
IMPORTANT SAFETY NOTICE: Hiking is a rewarding activity, but certain dangers exist. These may include trip and fall injuries, bee stings, poison oak exposure, ticks, snake bites, coyotes, mountain lions, or wildlife encounters. By registering for this event, you explicitly recognize that our organizers and participants are not professional guides or certified experts. You assume responsibility for yourself and your safety, agreeing to hold harmless the hike organizer, co-organizer, assistant organizers, and fellow participants for any injuries sustained during the hike. This acknowledgment extends to any unforeseen incidents or accidents that might take place, emphasizing your commitment to personal responsibility for your safety throughout the entire event. Your participation implies your understanding and acceptance of the shared responsibility for ensuring a safe and enjoyable experience for everyone involved. - Sheep Run & Meadows Loop + Cave Rock Alt (7–11 Miles, Moderate Pace)Canyon View Park, Aliso Viejo, CA
Get a sneak peek: Sheep Run & Meadows loop preview
Read This Before Joining: Not So Casual Hikes are fast-paced, challenging outings designed for hikers in great shape who know their limits and show up prepared. Our organizers are volunteers—not guides—and cannot be responsible for your pace, navigation, or safety. We don’t provide sweepers, and the group may not wait if you fall behind. You might finish with new friends or on your own—and either way, it's part of the journey. By signing up, you take full responsibility for your fitness, gear, hydration, and navigation. We don’t tailor pace or routes for individuals, and we don’t make space for complaints. What we do offer is a supportive, like-minded community that thrives on grit, respect, and pushing the edge together. If that speaks to you—we’re glad you found us. Let's move.
Join us for a scenic loop through Aliso and Wood Canyons Wilderness Park!
We’ll take on a beautiful 11-mile loop starting from Canyon View Park in Aliso Viejo. The route climbs Wood Canyon Trail up to Sheep Run, continues across rolling ridges, and descends the Meadows Trail, with a return through Wood Canyon. Expect about 1,470+ ft of elevation gain and a total time of 3.5–4 hours, depending on pace and breaks.Optional Shorter Route (6–7 miles): For those who prefer a lighter day, you can branch off at Wood Canyon to explore Dripping Cave and Cave Rock before looping back.
Location: Canyon View Park, Aliso Viejo, California
Meeting Point: Canyon View Staging Area, Aliso Viejo
Parking: Free street parking nearby
Difficulty: Moderate to challenging
Distance & Gain: 7–11 miles | ~1,470+ ft cumulative elevation gainEssentials:
· Sturdy hiking shoes with good traction
- Hiking poles (optional but recommended for steep sections)
· Water
· Snacks/energy bars
· Sun protection (hat, sunscreen, sunglasses)
· A positive attitude and a smile 😊Route Overview (long loop):
- Start at Canyon View Staging Area
- Follow Wood Canyon Trail → (alt.) Wood Canyon Creek → Coyote Run
- Climb Sheep Run and connect with Aswut
- Descend Meadows Trail back to Wood Canyon
- Finish at Canyon Vistas
Alternate Route (~6–7 miles):
- Follow Wood Canyon to Dripping Cave and Cave Rock trails before looping back
Punctuality & RSVP Etiquette:
We kindly request that all participants aim to be punctual. Our group will wait for a grace period of 5 minutes past the scheduled start time for any latecomers. However, if you realize that you're running late, please inform us through the message board. This will help us know to wait a bit longer for you and ensure we don't leave anyone behind.
If your plans change and you're unable to attend after RSVPing, please cancel your RSVP before the event begins. This consideration allows us to manage the group size effectively and opens up space for others who might be on a waiting list.
REMINDER: By joining the meetup, you agree to Meetup Terms of Service, releasing the Organizer, Co-Organizer, and Assistant Organizers from any liability related to incidents during gatherings.
IMPORTANT SAFETY NOTICE: Hiking is a rewarding activity, but certain dangers exist. These may include trip and fall injuries, bee stings, poison oak exposure, ticks, snake bites, coyotes, mountain lions, or wildlife encounters. By registering for this event, you explicitly recognize that our organizers and participants are not professional guides or certified experts. You assume responsibility for yourself and your safety, agreeing to hold harmless the hike organizer, co-organizer, assistant organizers, and fellow participants for any injuries sustained during the hike. This acknowledgment extends to any unforeseen incidents or accidents that might take place, emphasizing your commitment to personal responsibility for your safety throughout the entire event. Your participation implies your understanding and acceptance of the shared responsibility for ensuring a safe and enjoyable experience for everyone involved.
