Re: [newtech-1] Tech Schools?
| From: | Carlos N. |
| Sent on: | Monday, August 31, 2009, 7:49 PM |
Rich,
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Another point to consider: if you're looking to stay on the working track during your college career (i.e. you want a job when you're done), then look into schools that have:
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1) Really strong career service departments, and
2) Well-established internship and/or co-op programs.
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Joining co-op was probably the best decision I've made during my time at Stevens, and it not only helped me mature both professionally and characteristically, but also helped me land a great job?before my Super Senior year even started. Most Stevens students in the co-op program have absolutely no issues finding jobs, especially Computer Engineering/Science folks (my concentration). We usually graduate with 1.5 - 2 years of work experience, along with anything else we did before then. That along with good grades?usually?guarantees us?a well-paying entry level job?for practically any company we choose.
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Additionally, try to look into whether your school has professional student organizations on campus. I was a member of the National Society of Black Engineers for two years (great group, but not my cup of tea socially), and going to their conferences helped me land interview opportunities with some really high-profile people (Bank of America, Apple, Amazon, etc.). Getting five or ten minutes of face time with?a? recruiter that isn't HR is a STUPIDLY HUGE plus, and those conferences provide those opportunities in spades.
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Again, if your goal is to continue down the academic path, then you probably want to stick to Ivy all of the way (that includes Ph.D level)...and get really good grades while you do it.
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Good luck!
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-Carlos
-Carlos
-Carlos
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On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Carlos O. Nunez <[address removed]> wrote:
Rich,?NYIT <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< MIT?Why??1) NYIT's reputation is limited mostly to NYC, and it's reputation is shoddy at that (the school that poor high school performers go to b/c it's a tech school that has a low barrier for entry). I don't need to say anything about MIT.?2) Because of (1), MIT's staff >>>> NYIT's staff.?You can get a job with a degree from practically anywhere...but rolling with the big boys requires one of two things:?1) Having attended a really, really impressive school and done really, really well OR2) Having lots of experience and learning how to network?Lots of folks from MIT and similar schools have both, so keep that in mind.?Also, MIT's program is (in)famous for being notoriously, ridiculously and almost unnecessarily difficult. It'll make a man out of you...or at least make you stop trolling :-p (I though the Mac sucks thread was pure gold...folks, this is what new tech's about)?If you're specifically looking to study IT/MIS/Sec, here are a few good locals: NYU Poly (previously Brooklyn Polytechnic), Stevens (my alma mater, graduating this May coming), Cooper Union (thought it's better for engineering than IT), Rutgers and NJIT. Here are a few schools in?the tri-state?that are also worth considering: RPI (friend goes here; it's worth its salt), RIT (same), Syracuse, and?Princeton (if you're considering MIT, then you might as well go all out).
One last bit: take a look at http://www.studentsreview.com. This will give you a really good idea of the mess you'll be getting yourself into. In my opinion, what I've learned over my five years at Stevens is that focus is key. Really good grades are good if you want to stay an academic, but work experience, networking, and sharpening those social and technical skills are much more important if getting THE job is the end goal (good grades help a lot, though).?-Carlos--?On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Richard Bidermanis <[address removed]> wrote:
Ahhhhhhh I should of never said anything to begin with! I am... dumb when it comes to my lack of what MIT is and all these DIFFERENT COMMENTS drive me nuts.
One person says big, popular schools are good, and then someone comes along and says it's not so good because of personal experience... you understand? It makes me twirl in circles from all these comments.
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> To: [address removed]> Subject: Re: [newtech-1] Tech Schools?> Date: Mon, 31 Aug[masked]:19:45 -0400
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> Richard,> I have no clue why you would say such a thing. Please tell us. There has
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> "So MIT isn't just famous, but it's actually "REALLY GOOD" too?"
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> to be a reason. I can make assumptions but I tend to try very hard not too.
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> Of course - it is "REALLY GOOD".
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> Richard Bidermanis wrote:
> > That's simple why I would prefer to go to NYIT instead. It's closer.
> > Yup, that's it.
> >> > Also, I don't know how I will fund my education if I'm not working> > part time, or full. But I assume if I have very good GPA it'll pay off
> > on its own.
> >
> > What about Polytechnic University? That was my other idea. I would
> > *prefer* to finish my at least, 4 years in NY, and then move out of state.
> >
> > So MIT isn't just famous, but it's actually "REALLY GOOD" too? Okay.
> > Well, back to saying what I said earlier. I guess it's time to aim for
> > that target and if I fail to hit, I'll have a back-up plan.
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> > Date: Mon, 31 Aug[masked]:45:59 -0400
> > From: [address removed]
> > Subject: Re: [newtech-1] Tech Schools?
> > To: [address removed]
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> > Rob hit the nail on the head.
> >
> > If you get in AND can afford it, its a no brainer.
> >
> > I guess I fail to see the upside of going to NYIT vs. MIT...can you
> > explain? i can certainly understand monetary concerns - but why would
> > you choose NYIT over MIT???
> >
> > can you name one good reason?
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:30 AM, H. Vidal, Jr.
> > <[address removed] <mailto:[address removed]>> wrote:
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> > Not sure if original thread about
> > 'Tech Schools' meant engineering or
> > CS per se; in Electrical and Computer
> > Engineering vs. Computer Science,
> > there is a fair bit of correlation in
> > terms of rankings, perhaps in contrast to
> > Mechanical Engineering or Chemical Engineering
> > vs. Computer Science.
> >
> > Perhaps of note:
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> > GRE Guide to CS School rankings:
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> > http://www.greguide.com/comps.html
> >
> > Web search shows that there are many lists sort of
> > like this. The top 4 may scramble around a bit
> > in terms of order, but the 4 members are very
> > consistent. MIT is often ranked first.
> >
> > There have been some articles floating around on
> > NYTimes and/or Slashdot on income-rankings-post
> > schools, i.e. if you graduate from a particular
> > school, what kind of income are you likely to
> > have[masked] years later. This list closely
> > correlates with the rankings list.
> >
> > I do recall that on the income rankings list,
> > MIT was first all around. FWIW.
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> > also worth noting: NYIT does not seem to be
> > 'on radar' on these lists.> > <mailto:[address removed]>)
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