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#### Next step: schedule your first event. Scheduling an event will encourage more people to join your group. Schedule Change photo  # [Gruppo di biliardo pool/carambola amatoriale e mini-tornei](https://www.meetup.com/gruppo-di-biliardo-pool-carambola-amatoriale-e-mini-tornei/) [Milano, MI, Italy](https://www.meetup.com/find/it--mi--milano/) [1 members](https://www.meetup.com/gruppo-di-biliardo-pool-carambola-amatoriale-e-mini-tornei/members/) · Public group Share Manage groupSchedule event [About](https://www.meetup.com/gruppo-di-biliardo-pool-carambola-amatoriale-e-mini-tornei/?eventOrigin=your_groups) [Events](https://www.meetup.com/gruppo-di-biliardo-pool-carambola-amatoriale-e-mini-tornei/events/?eventOrigin=your_groups) [Members](https://www.meetup.com/gruppo-di-biliardo-pool-carambola-amatoriale-e-mini-tornei/members/?eventOrigin=your_groups) [Photos](https://www.meetup.com/gruppo-di-biliardo-pool-carambola-amatoriale-e-mini-tornei/photos/?eventOrigin=your_groups) [Discussions](https://www.meetup.com/gruppo-di-biliardo-pool-carambola-amatoriale-e-mini-tornei/discussions/?eventOrigin=your_groups) More ## What we’re about Buongiorno a tutti. Sono proprietario di un bar e dispongo di un tavolo da biliardo semi-professionale. Sto creando un gruppo WhatsApp di giocatori amatoriali di biliardo americano pool/carambola, per la maggior parte debuttanti. Cerco persone disposte a unirsi al gruppo per giocare e divertirsi nel tempo libero, il pomeriggio oppure la sera in ogni giorno. Per stimolare l'impegno di ogni giocatore, abbiamo pattuito che il vincitore di ogni "mini-torneo" organizzato nei vari giorni giochi gratis e non paghi la tariffa di tempo per il periodo di gioco (un'ora di gioco costa 10€, ma viene di volta in volta frazionata in base al periodo di gioco effettivo). Il locale si trova in zona nord di Milano, stazione Greco-Pirelli, università Bicocca. Chiunque dovesse essere davvero interessato a partecipare e unirsi al mio gruppo, non esiti a contattarmi. Cerco persone serie e disposte solamente a divertirsi, senza puntare mazzette grazie mille. Antonio

\-\-\-\-\-\-\- Hey there! On **Friday, April 17th**, let's meet at Mood in the city center of Monza from **20:00** for an open-air English quiz night (yes, it's at the piazza)! The game starts at around 21:00 (or earlier), so try to be there on time! Bring all your friends, and the event is free - you pay for what you consume. 🌟 **Location:** https://maps.app.goo.gl/6rU8BYXKCuxPHa6v8 **Address:** P.za Trento e Trieste, 5, 20900 Monza MB **Start time:** 20:00 **Instagram for DM and info:** https://www.instagram.com/whatsupmonza **\- Matthew**

👉 **Join the WhatsApp group to participate**: https://chat.whatsapp.com/CGBND0zPLG5DTUNlCjVMel 📌 **What** Join us for an **Drinks Night @ Pogue Mahone 🍻🌍**, a relaxed, social evening to meet new people, have a few drinks, and enjoy one of Milan’s liveliest Irish pubs. Expect a mix of standing chats, easy mingling, and a fun, informal atmosphere where conversations flow as easily as the drinks. Whether you’re new in Milan or just looking to expand your circle, this is the perfect low-pressure way to connect with an international crowd. **How it works:** We’ll meet directly at **Pogue Mahone at 21:00**, grab drinks, and naturally mix as people arrive. No strict structure — just good vibes, music, and spontaneous conversations. ❗️To find the group and stay updated, **joining the WhatsApp group is essential**. 📌 **Who** Internationals, expats, students, and locals aged 20–35 who enjoy social nights, good drinks, and meeting new people. 📌 **How** • RSVP on Meetup • **Join the WhatsApp group (essential)** 📲 • Keep your RSVP updated so we can manage numbers

Hi my friends, welcome to "Don't Be Shy!", your favourite international aperitivo 🇬🇧🇨🇵🇩🇪🇪🇸🇯🇵🇵🇹. We meet every Friday (Pacino café) from 19:30 so don't worry if you arrive a bit later, we will be there until late. During the evening you will have the opportunity to meet nice people 😉 and speak several languages 😊. Two simple rules to folllow: bring your smile and DON'T BE SHY! 🔴 Photos and videos of the event will be posted on Instagram ⬇️⬇️⬇️ https://instagram.com/dontbeshy_milano?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= 🔴 Apertivo/first drink 11€ The bar will serve food until 21:30 🔴 Ask for me (Armando) when you arrive. 🔴 You can write me on WhatsApp 3755246023 if needed. what's app group (communication & updates only) >>> https://chat.whatsapp.com/BSMO1uygZxhHWMrVhCJzlr I cannot wait to meet you all ✌🏿, Armando

venerdì sera ci troviamo in questo bellissimo locale invernale dove gustare un ottimo buffet in compagnia al prezzo di 17€ comprensivo anche della prima consumazione. Avremo il nostro tavolo riservato dove poter conoscerci chiacchierare e fare amicizia. Dalle 22,30 chi vuole può rimanere a ballare la migliore musica dagli anni 70 ai giorni nostri. Evento consigliato a un pubblico over 35/40. Gradita la conferma via whatsapp ai nostri numeri: Enrico 3930134920 melissa 3755058482

venerdì sera ci troviamo in questo bellissimo locale invernale dove gustare un ottimo buffet in compagnia al prezzo di 17€ comprensivo anche della prima consumazione. Avremo il nostro tavolo riservato dove poter conoscerci chiacchierare e fare amicizia. Dalle 22,30 chi vuole può rimanere a ballare la migliore musica dagli anni 70 ai giorni nostri. Evento consigliato a un pubblico over 35/40. Gradita la conferma via whatsapp ai nostri numeri: Enrico 3930134920 melissa 3755058482

La Cena degli Sconosciuti, dedicata al pubblico dai 35 ai 55 anni, **Venerdì 17/04/2026 alle ore 21,00** al The Beach Milano, e a seguire DJset fino a tardi. La Cena degli Sconosciuti ® ti consente di cenare insieme a tante persone che come te hanno voglia di socializzare! Quindi… Perchè stare a casa in solitudine quando hai la possibilità di sederti ad un social table? **The Beach Milano** Via Corelli, 62 (ingresso da via Taverna) Milano **Info e prenotazioni:** **Prenotazione obbligatoria, manda un Whatsapp al 347/5686000** **scrivendo: 17beach, il tuo nome, età + numero tuoi ospiti** La Cena degli Sconosciuti è la prima social dinner italiana. Nata nel 2002 ha fatto incontrare diverse decine di migliaia di single. La quota comprende tutto ciò che è indicato nel menù seguente, gli extra sono a parte e si pagano al momento dell’ordine. Venerdì 17 Aprile 2026 ore 21,00 Formula Cena **Uomo 35,00 € (come da menù)** **Donna 15,00 € (come da menù)** **Tris di antipasti:** Coda di gambero in pasta kataifi e salsa agrodolce Coppa piacentina e gnocco fritto Flan di carote con vellutata di parmigiano **Un Primo a scelta:** Trofie al pesto oppure Risotto con crostacei e zucchine **Un Secondo a scelta:** Cotoletta di pollo alla milanese oppure Grigliata di pesce e verdure con salsa salmoriglio **Acqua e vino (1 bott. ogni 4 persone)** **Prenotazione obbligatoria, manda un Whatsapp al 347/5686000** **scrivendo: 17beach, il tuo nome, età + numero tuoi ospiti** info complete: [https://www.lacenadeglisconosciuti.com/events/venerdi-17-aprile-2026-cena-degli-sconosciuti-al-the-beach-milano/](https://www.lacenadeglisconosciuti.com/events/venerdi-17-aprile-2026-cena-degli-sconosciuti-al-the-beach-milano/)

#### Next step: schedule your first event. Scheduling an event will encourage more people to join your group. Schedule Change photo  # [Gruppo di biliardo pool/carambola amatoriale e mini-tornei](https://www.meetup.com/gruppo-di-biliardo-pool-carambola-amatoriale-e-mini-tornei/) [Milano, MI, Italy](https://www.meetup.com/find/it--mi--milano/) [1 members](https://www.meetup.com/gruppo-di-biliardo-pool-carambola-amatoriale-e-mini-tornei/members/) · Public group Share Manage groupSchedule event [About](https://www.meetup.com/gruppo-di-biliardo-pool-carambola-amatoriale-e-mini-tornei/?eventOrigin=your_groups) [Events](https://www.meetup.com/gruppo-di-biliardo-pool-carambola-amatoriale-e-mini-tornei/events/?eventOrigin=your_groups) [Members](https://www.meetup.com/gruppo-di-biliardo-pool-carambola-amatoriale-e-mini-tornei/members/?eventOrigin=your_groups) [Photos](https://www.meetup.com/gruppo-di-biliardo-pool-carambola-amatoriale-e-mini-tornei/photos/?eventOrigin=your_groups) [Discussions](https://www.meetup.com/gruppo-di-biliardo-pool-carambola-amatoriale-e-mini-tornei/discussions/?eventOrigin=your_groups) More ## What we’re about Buongiorno a tutti. Sono proprietario di un bar e dispongo di un tavolo da biliardo semi-professionale. Sto creando un gruppo WhatsApp di giocatori amatoriali di biliardo americano pool/carambola, per la maggior parte debuttanti. Cerco persone disposte a unirsi al gruppo per giocare e divertirsi nel tempo libero, il pomeriggio oppure la sera in ogni giorno. Per stimolare l'impegno di ogni giocatore, abbiamo pattuito che il vincitore di ogni "mini-torneo" organizzato nei vari giorni giochi gratis e non paghi la tariffa di tempo per il periodo di gioco (un'ora di gioco costa 10€, ma viene di volta in volta frazionata in base al periodo di gioco effettivo). Il locale si trova in zona nord di Milano, stazione Greco-Pirelli, università Bicocca. Chiunque dovesse essere davvero interessato a partecipare e unirsi al mio gruppo, non esiti a contattarmi. Cerco persone serie e disposte solamente a divertirsi, senza puntare mazzette grazie mille. Antonio

INTERSCAMBIO IN SPAGNOLO tutti i sabato sera per migliorare la lingua, conoscere gente e divertirsi assaggiando i fantastici drink del Pacino cafè. 🍹💯😋 Ogni sabato il nostro gruppo di spagnolo si riunisce anche con altri gruppi provenienti da meetup, tablo e Instagram per conversare in spagnolo ma anche in inglese e italiano per gli stranieri. Comincia pure in spagnolo e poi scegli il gruppo che vuoi! 🗣️🔝 I partecipanti che vedi qui iscritti all'evento sono quindi una parte e provengono solo da questo gruppo! 🤩 per sapere in quanti siamo il sabato contatta pure gli organizzatori qualche ora prima dell'evento 💌 >> << INTERCAMBIO DE ESPAÑOL todos los sábados por la noche para mejorar tus conocimientos del idioma, conocer gente y divertirte probando las fantásticas bebidas del Pacino café. 🍹💯😋 Todos los sábados nuestro grupo de español se reúne también con otros grupos de meetup, tablo e Instagram para conversar en español pero también en inglés e italiano para extranjeros. ¡Comienza en español y luego elige el grupo que quieras! 🗣️🔝 ¡Los participantes que ves registrados para el evento entonces son solo una parte y provienen únicamente de este grupo! 🤩 Para saber cuántos seremos contacta con los organizadores unas horas antes del evento 💌

Join us for a fun urban game in Milan! Tour Quiz is not a classic guided tour, it is a city game where you explore Milan while solving clues and competing with other teams. Instead of simply listening to a guide, you discover the city through a playful challenge: observe details, answer questions and reach the final point with the best score. Many people think Milan is only about the Duomo, but the city hides elegant streets, fascinating stories and surprising architectural details. **Route - Corso Venezia** This route explores one of the most elegant areas of Milan. Corso Venezia is known for its historic palaces, Liberty architecture and refined atmosphere. During the game you will discover historic aristocratic buildings, elegant streets near the Fashion District and the mysterious Quadrilatero del Silenzio, a quiet area full of hidden architectural curiosities. **How the game works** At the beginning participants meet the organizer at the starting point. Each team receives a map of the route, a booklet with stories and curiosities and a quiz sheet with questions. Teams walk through the city following the route and solving the questions along the way. At the end we meet again at the final point, check the answers and announce the winning team. The team with the highest score wins a small prize. **Teams** You can come with your own team or join alone. If you come alone, we will help create teams with other participants. **Languages** The game is available in English, Italian and Russian. When booking, please write which language you prefer. **Practical information** Duration about 2 - 2.5 hours. Team size 2 - 6 people. Total group up to 20 participants. Price 25€ adults, 15€ children. **Tickets** Tickets can be purchased here https://www.eventbrite.it/e/tour-quiz-milano-corso-venezia-tickets-1986448117794 or on our website https://www.xcitytours.com/event-details/tour-quiz-milano-corso-venezia-9 Your Meetup RSVP helps us estimate the group size, but the ticket must be purchased through one of the links above. **About X City Tours** X City Tours organizes urban game experiences that combine exploration, culture and fun. Instead of a traditional guided tour, participants discover Milan through a playful challenge. The goal is simple: discover Milan while playing. Join our Meetup group to discover future Tour Quiz routes in Milan.

**Crea il tuo stick aromatico personale con olio di mandorle dolci e oli essenziali** Un laboratorio esperienziale, creativo e sensoriale dedicato al benessere quotidiano. In questo workshop imparerai le basi dell’aromaterapia e realizzerai il tuo stick roll-on personalizzato, da portare sempre con te: un piccolo alleato naturale per accompagnarti durante la giornata. ✨Cosa faremo insieme **1\. Breve panoramica sugli oli essenziali** Scopriremo cosa sono gli oli essenziali, come vengono estratti e come agiscono a livello fisico ed emozionale. Parleremo di: * modalità di utilizzo sicure * diluizione corretta in olio vettore (useremo olio di mandorle dolci) * proprietà principali di alcuni oli selezionati * differenza tra profumo e olio essenziale L’obiettivo non è fare una lezione tecnica, ma darti strumenti semplici e pratici per scegliere in modo consapevole. **2\. Ascolto\, intuizione e scelta** Porterò delle carte descrittive degli oli essenziali ed esplorerai le caratteristiche di ogni essenza a disposizione. Ti guiderò in un piccolo momento di ascolto per capire: * di cosa hai bisogno in questo periodo * quale profumo ti attrae spontaneamente Lavoreremo unendo conoscenza e intuizione. **3\. Creazione del tuo roll\-on personalizzato** Sceglierai gli oli essenziali che senti più adatti a te e li miscelerai nell’olio di mandorle dolci per creare il tuo stick aromatico personale. Potrai usarlo: * nei momenti di stress * per favorire concentrazione o rilassamento * come rituale quotidiano * come piccolo gesto di cura personale Il tuo “essenziale in tasca” diventerà un promemoria olfattivo del tuo intento. 🌸 A chi è rivolto Il workshop è aperto a chiunque desideri avvicinarsi al mondo degli oli essenziali in modo semplice, pratico e creativo. Non è richiesta alcuna esperienza precedente. 💛 Cosa porterai a casa * Il tuo stick roll-on personalizzato con gli oli essenziali a disposizione e scelta. * Conoscenze di base per utilizzare gli oli essenziali in sicurezza * Un’esperienza di connessione sensoriale e creativa * Un momento dedicato a te 🌸 MASSIMO 8 POSTI Contributo di partecipazione 15€ compreso di: -tutti i materiali -la mia guida \- lo stick roll on in vetro \- acqua al tavolo e caffè di benvenuto ☕ se gradito\. La quota verrà restituita in caso di annullamento del workshop o in caso di disdetta della prenotazione entro 48h dall'evento. Contributo da versare con Paypal, Satispay o bonifico. Ulteriori consumazioni al bar saranno a carico di ciascun partecipante. Gruppo whatsapp : [https://chat.whatsapp.com/JPeImG8EK1P82157K4izWP?mode=wwt](https://chat.whatsapp.com/JPeImG8EK1P82157K4izWP?mode=wwt)

👉 **Join the WhatsApp group to participate:** [https://chat.whatsapp.com/CGBND0zPLG5DTUNlCjVMel](https://chat.whatsapp.com/CGBND0zPLG5DTUNlCjVMel) **📌 What** Are you the type who flips the table at Monopoly or the one who calmly explains the rules to everyone? Sunday night is Board Game Night! It’s casual, it’s fun, and it’s the perfect way to meet people without the awkward small talk. Play, grab a beer, and see who’s the most competitive in the group. ***How it works:*** Meet at **7 PM** at the **Meetup reserved table**. QUO Hostel provides plenty of games, but feel free to bring your own favorites to teach the group something new. Look for the gathering, pull up a chair, and join a game. ❗️To find the group and stay updated, joining the WhatsApp group is essential. **📌 Who** Board game geeks, casual players, strategy lovers, and anyone looking for a chilled night out with an international crowd. 📌 **How** • RSVP on Meetup • **Join the WhatsApp group (essential)** 📲 • Keep your RSVP updated so we can manage numbers

👉 **Join the WhatsApp group to participate:** [https://chat.whatsapp.com/CGBND0zPLG5DTUNlCjVMel](https://chat.whatsapp.com/CGBND0zPLG5DTUNlCjVMel) 📌 **What** Join us for a padel session in Milan 🎾🌞 — a fun and active way to meet new people, enjoy the game, and have a great time on court. Whether you’re experienced or just starting out, the focus is on good energy, friendly matches, and a social atmosphere. We’ll rotate players so everyone gets a chance to play, with breaks in between to relax, chat, and enjoy the vibe around the courts. **How it works:** We’ll meet at the court, warm up, and start playing shortly after. Matches will rotate so everyone can join in — no pressure, just good games and good people. ❗️To find the group and stay updated, joining the WhatsApp group is essential. 📌 **Who** Internationals, expats, students, and locals aged 20–35 who enjoy sports, social activities, and meeting new people. 📌 **How** • RSVP on Meetup • Join the WhatsApp group (essential) 📲 • Bring water and be ready to play

**\*Limited spots\*** This is a regular **2-hour volleyball game** for current members of our group. We usually play **5v5**, or **4v4**. **1) Please RSVP only if you can commit.** Payment must be made by the day before the game (exceptions for active members that notify beforehand). If payment is not received on time, your spot will go to the next person on the waitlist who pays. **2)** Please **arrive 10 minutes early and be on time** so we can start smoothly. **3)** If you’re **NEW**, please **message first and do not RSVP directly**. To keep games balanced, guest spots are limited and usually suitable for intermediate-level players only. At the moment, the group is at capacity, so we are not accepting new regular members unless invited. **This is not a training session or a highly competitive setup.** We play *to have fun, stay active, and enjoy good games together*. **💗🫂** --- **-** **About WE NEED + (MORE) PPL** We’re building a community for adults 25-50 who enjoy real, low-pressure social time. Keywords: community building, meet new people, make friends, adult friends, introvert-friendly, welcoming group, locals & expats, newcomers in Milan, social meetup, low-pressure social time, Sunday plans, Milan/Milano, Navigli, Porta Venezia, Isola, social sports, recreational volleyball, indoor beach volleyball, mixed levels, beginners welcome, intermediate welcome, skill-building, practice and play.

Thanks for being a part of the CABS Meetup Group! We meet @ the COFFEE UNDERGROUND on Indianola Avenue. We play many different games @ CABS - bring your own or play one of the OVER 2000 in our library. What are your favorite games? What was the last game you played? Hope to see and game with you soon! Check us out on Facebook! Doors open early on Saturday Mornings at 10am and around 4pm on Fridays if you are interested in learning new / simpler games ... or new to the hobby or just want to check us out come in early just after noon and we will show you around before the crowd grows. Stay for a game or two, an hour or two or for the day! Your first visit is free and after that it's $5 a meeting or you can join for the year! It's Your Move

Jimmy V's Grill & Pub in Grandview Heights. You are responsible for your own meal/drinks. We usually don't have any agenda other than eat, drink and talk. :) If the weather is nice we will be on the back patio, otherwise we are in the cigar room. This group has been meeting every Tuesday evening for over a decade. Many attendees do not RSVP on meetup. Please don't let the small number here discourage you. Anyone/everyone is welcome to come. We'd love to have you join us. COTA bus #5 comes to W. 5th and Wyandotte Rd. And it's a minute walk to the restaurant.

Thanks for being a part of the CABS Meetup Group! We meet @ the COFFEE UNDERGROUND on Indianola Avenue. We play many different games @ CABS - bring your own or play one of the OVER 2000 in our library. What are your favorite games? What was the last game you played? Hope to see and game with you soon! Check us out on Facebook! Doors open early on Saturday Mornings at 10am and around 4pm on Fridays if you are interested in learning new / simpler games ... or new to the hobby or just want to check us out come in early just after noon and we will show you around before the crowd grows. Stay for a game or two, an hour or two or for the day! Your first visit is free and after that it's $5 a meeting or you can join for the year! It's Your Move

Jimmy V's Grill & Pub in Grandview Heights. We meet in the bar in the room on the right (the cigar shop). You are responsible for your own meal/drinks. We usually don't have any agenda other than eat, drink and talk. :) If the weather is nice we will be on the back patio, otherwise we are in the cigar room. This group has been meeting every Tuesday evening for over a decade. Many attendees do not RSVP on meetup. Please don't let the small number here discourage you. Anyone/everyone is welcome to come. We'd love to have you join us. COTA bus #5 comes to W. 5th and Wyandotte Rd. And it's a minute walk to the restaurant. *** Did you know that there are atheists everywhere?!?! You may not know it, but we are! We're in your schools, diners, police force, military, government, and some are even still in your churches! So come and join us and meet other local atheists, along with agnostics, heathens, humanists, skeptics, and anyone else who's 'hell bound'! Vision: a Central Ohio that accepts atheism as a viable alternative in all areas of public and private life. Mission: grow, support, and provide community for atheists in Central Ohio. Social meetings held most Tuesdays at a local pub/restaurant at 7:00 PM (and often into the wee hours). Attendees call themselves agnostics, skeptics, humanists, non-theists, deists or even theists. All attendees are welcome but should support our vision. Atheists of Columbus (AoC) is part of Omnipresent Atheists (OA). AoC members are invited to join this OA meetup and/or OA Facebook group ( https://www.facebook.com/groups/omnipresentatheists/ ) but are free to continue conversations on the AoC Facebook group ( https://www.facebook.com/groups/columbusatheists/ ). AoC was founded in 2012 as a networking, social group for Central Ohio area humanists, skeptics, atheists, agnostics, nonbelievers, freethinkers, and the curious. It was a member of Columbus CoR and held weekly meetings, mostly on Fridays, for several years but then operated as an online only group for some time. In November 2018, Omnipresent Atheists (OA), a group that routinely meets on Tuesdays, invited AoC to merge. Omnipresent Atheists is a member of the Columbus Coalition of Reason (ColumbusCoR.org). Omnipresent Atheists is a member of the Columbus Coalition of Reason ( http://www.ColumbusCoR.org ). Omnipresent Atheists endorses the mission of the Secular Coalition for America ( http://secular.org ).

Dodgeball is back again! If you’ve been wanting to come out, this is an easy one to join. We’ll be playing for about 1.5 to 2 hours, you do not need to bring any equipment, and no experience is needed. We use a specific set of rules and equipment to make the games run better and keep them fun for everybody, not just people who already know how to play. If it rains, the event will be canceled.

Christians in Tech is a community at the intersection of faith and technology. Our meetups are designed to spark meaningful conversations, promote knowledge sharing, and encourage growth—both in your career and your spiritual walk with God. Whether you're an experienced professional or just starting your tech journey, CIT welcomes you. Our Website [https://linktr.ee/citcbus](https://linktr.ee/citcbus) Sponsors and Partners * Improving (Venue Sponsor) * Bethel World Prayer Center (Fiscal Sponsor) * Fruits & Roots (Coffee Partner)

The Forge does have a full bar and kitchen. There is no cover charge but they do request all attendees to purchase a minimum of ~$20 per person. Soft drink refills are $1 each. Please support our hosts so we can continue to provide great events for the group! The Forge has a large library of games available for us to enjoy. Hosts and regulars will also provide numerous popular games but please bring any games you would like to teach and/or play. Doors open at 6, and we expect gaming to be rolling by around 630. Please promptly end your games and clear out the space at 10pm when the bar closes. We encourage socializing but do not permit disruptive behavior of any kind. Thank you for your continued commitment to providing a fun and welcoming space to veteran, newbie, and rookie gamers in the Columbus area. Parking can be challenging. There is a parking lot behind the neighboring Mexican restaurant that is free and easy to walk from but it's a bit hidden.