February 21, 2012 6:30 PM. 50 attended.

Well Being & Equality. Are We Failing Our Children?

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The recent riots have brought ‘youth culture’ into focus once again. Child poverty is getting worse and unless something is done these problems is only set to increase.

A UNICEF study from 2007 placed the UK at the bottom of the child well-being league table among developed countries. But why did the UK come last, and why do children here continue to fare so poorly compared to other, similar countries? New research By Ipsos MORI for UNICEF UK has shown that children in the UK feel trapped in a “materialistic culture” and don’t have enough time with their families.

At this meeting we want to explore these issues that will affect the culture of our society in coming generations and to help us we have,

Alison Marshall is UNICEF UK's Public Affairs Director working on child rights advocacy. She manages a team working on research, policy, lobbying and public campaigning.  The team works on both international and domestic child rights issues ranging from HIV and AIDS to UK child poverty. She was previously Advocacy and Representative Manager at BOND, the network of international development NGOs. working on advocacy to UK and European targets and linking the UK into the Global Call to Action against Poverty.

 

Dr Agnes Nairn is a researcher, writer, consultant and speaker who investigates issues related to marketing, ethics and children. UNICEF UK, Ipsos MORI and Agnes worked together to explore the reasons behind the statistics on child well being in the UNICEF Report by comparing children's lives and experiences in the UK with those of children living in Spain and Sweden. Agnes is Professor of Marketing at world-leading EM-Lyon Business School in France. She also teaches at RSM Erasmus University in the Netherlands and Hult International Business School in London.

Ali Hessami has been involved with UNICEF for some considerable time and has a specific interest in the UNICEF report on child poverty. It is with Ali's help that we have put on this meeting. Ali is interested in ensuring that our discussion on this subject does not end at just one meeting but that it continues. We have several other meetings during the year on education and we hope that there will be a theme that we can develop around child welfare and development. But Ali is also interested in creating some developmental work around aims, goals and influences that will allow us to map progress on making a difference on this issue. Ali will explain this at this meeting and explore ways that we can take this forward.

Much of the research shows that children and young people value family, friendships and outdoor activities far more highly than the acquisition of material goods. On the other, it found UK families struggling to spend time with children. It paints a picture of stressed, guilty parents, faced with pressures of work impeding the quality life they want to offer their children. The purchase of goods was widely used as a substitute for family activities and engagement. 

This contrasts starkly with the picture in Spain and Sweden, where family time appeared to be woven into the fabric of everyday life. And by secondary school, the participation of British children in active and creative pursuits – pursuits that children said made them happy - had in fact dwindled, whilst this occurred less in other countries. 

We seem to be failing as a society to provide the very things those children clearly express a need for. The findings of these reports should inform us how we as a society respond to the wider issues underpinning the recent riots and more generally how we create a fair and just society.

If you want to find out more about the details of the UNICEF Report then you can do so here .....

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  • Neil Mukherjee
    Neil Mukherjee

    Consumerism: We as a community seem to have exchanged our day to day interactions & get togethers with material consumptions so much so that many of us are rating ourselves by what we have as opposed to what contributions we can give to our families and our wider communities.

    It seems that the only thing that ties us together are consumer transactions coupled with possesions of mod cons. We no longer gel as a family unit. Whatever families are standing tall are fixed by purchasing power.

    Posted February 2 at 6:07 PM
  • Neil Mukherjee
    Neil Mukherjee

    So, what can we suggest to tackle this grip of consumer culture dependence? Well firstly, we will need to build communities through local projects and initiatives that are based on communication, understanding and cooperation. Because we live in a society we need to build a chain linking community spirit with support. This may be achieved through community cohesion projects and social mobility projects based on effort and enthusiasm. We will need to believe in a form of cooperative competition.

    Posted February 2 at 6:15 PM
  • Benita
    Benita

    The key to tackling consumerism is to support the development of a Sharing Economy which triumphs access over ownership and people over product. By demonstrating that sharing is fun, good for you and the planet, we start to engage people in a new, sustainable economy. Collaborative Consumption fosters the notion of 'cooperative competition' or as I like to call it 'co-operation'. I've founded The People Who Share to champion sharing in all its guises and build a Sharing Economy.

    Posted February 2 at 9:28 PM
  • Stella
    Stella

    Seen Spain on Easter Day festival, just after Lent. All the Dads carry 3 children on each arm, I never worked out how they did it, just second nature to them. Back-packing in Italy - met another girl who was travelling with a toddler everywhere she went, she and her lttl'un were made welcome, with the tot a welcome guest no quibble ever. Holland has children dashing in and out of the cafes at Xmas, a fun custom, leaving sweets on all the adults' tables to hint for sweetness. The UK isn't there.

    Posted February 3 at 6:00 PM
  • David Flint
    David Flint

    Indeed. Italy is very pro-children. 25 years ago whilst traveling with a particularly small baby (3lbs) I was often mobbed by Italian women openly fascinated to see such a small child.

    Posted February 3 at 6:06 PM
  • Stella
    Stella

    Last Xmas, I was on the Internet and found a key US Government Office NORAD whose duty was to watch for air attacks, had its phone number printed in error on a Phone Santa bit of seasonal children's hi-jinks facility. The man there played along with the caller and assured the child that Santa was visible over the North Pole. This led to a Tracking Santa department which each year is staffed voluntarily by US military staff in Elve's dress "Santa's over Athens.." We don't seem 2 care collectively

    Posted February 4 at 12:01 AM
  • Rebecca
    Rebecca

    Stella, I've received about 15 emails from you today...not sure how it's happening, but there's lots of duplication.

    Posted February 4 at 12:07 AM
  • Stella
    Stella

    I've not sent one. What is your email address? I could take it out my my address book, not that it's definitely there. What do the messages say?

    Posted February 4 at 9:22 AM
  • Neil Mukherjee
    Neil Mukherjee

    Having campaigned for Save the Children, I know that the Govt. has not addressed many issues regarding child poverty in the UK. The 'no child born without a chance' campaign has attempted to address the FAST programme; Family & Schools Working Together whereby underprivleged children can get a head start in education as teachers work with parents for the wellbeing of their children. Further issues include helping struggling families with their fuel bills to effectively help children at home.

    Posted February 5 at 8:11 PM
  • sally-anne donaldson
    sally-anne donaldson

    I am absolutely gutted i can't make this. The reason I can't make it is because i have children to look after! I run a new social enterprise called Tea Dance for Little People, a family arts cafe that is just beginning to research and prove impact on the health and well-being of the families that attend. These are large issues for families but localised creativity activity can also have huge impacts on happiness and family attachment. Im sorry I cant be there

    Posted February 21 at 12:19 AM
  • Jazz Rasool
    Jazz Rasool

    Education & Upbringing have been seperated. Grades alone don't get you into university or secure a job anymore. Intelligence is a poor cousin of Wisdom & Wellbeing is more than good food & exercise. The whole being of children needs nurturing. Starting a Wellbeing programme at one of the key youth centres in riot hit Tottenham, its clear that Wellbeing and Wisdom must come before targets for Grades and Salaries. Grades don't gaurantee wise choices and Money doesn't gaurantee a meaningful life.

    Posted February 21 at 10:28 AM
  • David Flint
    David Flint

    Of course, good grades are not enough for even economic success. But poor grades will keep you out of many interesting opportunities. Colleges and employers want intelligence AND soft skills.

    Posted February 21 at 10:57 AM
  • Margarita Foley
    Margarita Foley

    Jazz this is something we can easily miss although I agree we also need political action. Sometimes we can miss out on the obvious. When we meet children who are left very often to their own devices with no guidance around everyday skills and needs we realize there are several arms to action for the wellbeing of children. Each is vital. We need to change what is immediate as well as longterm planning. In short we need to invest in our children's future in all and every way we can.

    Posted February 21 at 11:03 AM
  • Anne Bennett
    Anne Bennett

    I too am sorry I cant be there this evening - my kids and me will make pancakes, then I am going to my son's school to begin being involved in their mentoring programme. I am not trying to score credentials here, and am in awe of the social entrepreneurism and community activism among the commentators here - I salute you! I struggle with the creation of healthy family life as my teenagers evolve - can we continue theme w/o submerging it in education? + look urgently at 'failing' UK family model?

    Posted February 21 at 12:06 PM
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    Francis Sealey
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    Ali Hessami
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    great event with amazing participation
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  • Neil Mukherjee
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    We had an interesting discussion. What interested me was that there were insightful observations made from the study, however, I thought that the UNICEF study was somewhat too broad for which reason we lost a lot of the depth within the report. For example the research could have looked into a deeper case study exclusively within the UK at first and pool out the responses from different socio-cultural groups, raising key issues such as class, race, cultural upbringing and wealth and see how these different variables conflicted or supported the case studies and whether they yielded any significant trends in positive or negative social upbringing and the role of the government to support UK families in preparing their children for living as responsible citizens. I would also have liked to learn more about the recommendations within the report which was not quite well discussed on the night. I liked the collaborative work in the end which gave a good overview of the evening's findings.
  • Daniel Lombard
    Thought-provoking discussion which gave me food for thought for my dissertation. Totally agree that inequality in the UK is one of the biggest issues facing society, which has a detrimental effect on child poverty, and Dr Nairn's research highlights the issues affecting children's well-being most vividly. Other impressions were that the two presentations on the report were good, although the introduction to mind-mapping could have been shortened. Also would have appreciated a clearer introduction to the two main speakers and the report itself, by perhaps using the projector to give the speakers' names, titles, plus the name of the report. However was an enjoyable and useful evening overall. I am now planning to focus on responses to child poverty in different London boroughs for my dissertation (for MSc Social Research), if anyone would like to share info with me please contact me on [masked]
  • Bryn Llewellyn
    Interesting presentation of the UNICEF paper, http://www.... by Dr Agnes Nairn and one of her colleagues. The discussion afterwards was fairly lively and thought-provoking. It was interesting to compare these various thoughts and opinions with my own work, which can be viewed: http://www.... http://www.... Both these organisations are tackling the issues of children's well-being and inequality in their own distinct ways. For further information on either programmes, please do not hesiatae to contact me, [masked] @brynll
  • Issa Ouandaogo
    +1 guest
    Starting time was respected. Great presentation,brief and clear. very instructive even thought a lot points still to be discussed...
  • sarah
    Full Member
    My first GlobalNet21 - so first impressions - Thank you for organising a very thought provoking evening. Good format & level of input from the speakers. Good capturing of questions & contributions with the mind map. Felt to me like the first half of a discussion. Would have liked the evening to continue - perhaps on a those who can/would like to stay basis, for another hour or so. Lay out of chairs made engaging with others difficult. Lots of really interesting points were made as people left. A second half could include discussion in, say, 4 smaller groups - allows people to develop their thinking further, feed back & discussion in whole group & final ideas in greater detail on the mind map. Looking forward to the next topic. Sarah
  • James Plunket
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    +3 guests
    It was great to hear about the comparative differences between countries. However, since this was the first time that the information was being presented to most of the audience, it would have been very useful to have read the report before the MeetUp. This would have given an opportunity for greater discussion about the underlying factors that led to the woeful quality of the UK’s childhood wellbeing. In future, could links to such papers and reports be made available as part of the invitation process and within the confirmation emails?
  • Lynne Friedli
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    I found this meeting very helpful and interesting; high quality presentations and plenty of time for audience participation/questions. I thought Ali's model for achieving consensus was useful and could see lots of applcations for this. It would be good to explore the themes raised in more detail - perhaps we need a follow up meeting - it's a huge topic. But I was really happy I went.
  • David Flint
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    Having a single main speaker allowed us to dig deeper into an important issue
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