Monthly Meeting - June/2013

June rolls around and AmsterdamPHP blows out the candle on our 1st anniversary!

We are still working on the details of this celebration, but we do know the topic will be traits. Gather up your stuff, bring you party music and let's celebrate one year of this great group. We will once again be hosted by our awesome friends at Tweakers HQ so that we have maximum space to fit everyone!


19:00: Welcome Drinks  
19:30 - 20:30: "Traits and statics, the right way"  
20:30 - 20:45: Raffle  
20:45: Social, drinks and food.  

Speaker: Frank de Jonge

Frank de Jonge is one of the two Amsterdam based developersgoing by the name of Ku. When not working for clients he's activelycontributing to the FuelPHP framework of which he's one of the coredevelopers.

Talk: "Traits and statics, the right way."
Traits and statics (methods and properties) are two features of PHPthat are loved by some and hated by others. The PHP community isgrowing up. So, everybody tests their code and traits and statics arebad! But they don't have to be. Let's look into what they are and howto use them without feeling guilty afterwards.

We got some awesome stuff to give away this month, so make sure you CHECK IN once you arrive at the meetup if you want a shot at getting it!


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  • Mitchell van W.

    If you want to see Frank and Shawn arm wrestle, then this is the video to watch!

    3 · June 21, 2013

  • Ramon de la F.

    I liked the meeting - and I liked the talk, good job Frank. While the talk itself didn't provide me with new insights regarding traits or statics, the conversations afterward did. It's certainly an area that sparks lively debate!

    June 21, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Session was okay, group was not very welcome to newcomers. They weren't not nice or anything, but in most meetups I go to someone approaches new faces to welcome them.

    June 21, 2013

    • Pascal de V.

      Sorry to hear that Walter! I hope you'll visit our meeting next time, as new members (which I once was too) are just as welcome as the old gang. I hope you can bring some of that friendly-to-newcomers spirit with you so we can learn from it :)

      6 · June 21, 2013

  • Ron van der M.

    Unfortunatly i always felt that traits bring some readability issues and complexity. Its easy to use wrong or overdo it. The talk did not change that for me. Had a very nice evening though!

    June 21, 2013

  • Erika H.

    Great talk, I honestly had no deeper knowledge about traits and now they seem very interesting to me :)

    1 · June 21, 2013

  • Arjan U.

    Compliments to Frank for his talk.
    Nice evening!

    June 21, 2013

  • Jeroen Vd G.

    Interesting Talk: would go again

    June 21, 2013

  • Lennart van den D.

    Traits seem like they can be useful, although I would personally still be a little hesitant to use them in a production environment. Will experiment and get some experience. For those who would like to use something like this in PHP 5.3: The Yii framework supports a comparable, trait like implementation. Yii calls them behaviors and they overcome some of the limitations imposed by traits were testability is concerned, since they're actually just regular classes. Works well IMO.

    More details can be found here:

    June 20, 2013

  • Lennart van den D.

    ignoring some of the typos: good story!

    June 20, 2013

  • Dennis de G.

    I'm here!

    1 · June 20, 2013

  • Demian R.

    Will be there

    June 20, 2013

  • Jolanda V.

    sorry, can bnot make it this time

    June 20, 2013

  • George J.

    Sorry, can't make it today

    June 20, 2013

  • Frank van den B.

    Bummed I have to miss this

    1 · June 13, 2013

  • Peter H.

    Family matters...
    Next time vacation
    But in August I will be back :)

    June 20, 2013

  • Jeroen G.

    I'm afraid I can't make it tonight. Good luck and have fun.

    June 20, 2013

  • Conor W.


    June 19, 2013

  • Elwin A.

    Hey Guys,
    I ran into this beauty while debugging some unexpected behavior:

    for($i=0; $i<array(); $i++) {
    echo "To infitity and beyyyyyyyyy\n";

    I thought maybe someone here could explain why this loops infinitely?

    2 · June 17, 2013

    • Rafael D.

      humm... ok you may be right, that is unexpected.

      June 17, 2013

    • Elwin A.

      The loop isn't executed if the condition is false (initially).

      June 17, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    2 · June 17, 2013

    • Elwin A.

      Bawww.. Kinda disappoint it's right there in the manual. Wondering if they internally convert it to the value/class of INF.

      June 17, 2013

    • Elwin A.

      1 < array() == INF :-)

      June 17, 2013

  • Johan G.

    Helaas, pindakaas.

    June 14, 2013

  • Raoul G.


    June 14, 2013

  • Peter H.


    June 13, 2013

  • Jakub G.

    Unfortunately real life defeated me this time and I will not be able to attend, so freeing the spot for some other eager PHP'ers.

    May 31, 2013

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