Re: [wordpress-194] Trace Richardson added a post

From: Trace
Sent on: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:02 PM
Ding ding ding!

Just got back from an hour at the gym, an hour at Muay Thai and an hour and a half of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.... I'm exhausted and I'm now cleaning blood off my Gi..... good times. Some of you may care about how my day went and may want to hear about it and some may not be that concerned about it.....which would be most of you. :)?

Similarly, while we all have a similar interest in WordPress, we may have different varying degrees of how often we want to be pinged by the AZ WordPress Group, some of you want every freaking email and others, not so much..... Sooooooooo...... I have turned on the discussion board at the AZ WP Group meetup page and pasted the entire thread in there so have at it. The board was previously turned off because there was cross posting of info on the board and on azwpgroup.com.....

I love the discussion, love the points made and I think we can all learn from it, we just want to be careful about replying to the entire group in general. That being said, I think I accidentally replied to a message to me earlier and it went to the entire group.... so it does happen. Let's try to minimize, if not altogether refrain from replying to the group, if you have something you want to go out to the group, shoot it to me and I can pass it on if it makes sense to do so. It may make sense to disable replying to the group as a whole, but we'll hold off for now...?

BTW, forgot to include that Stephen Murphey was the group member that sent me the E-commerce meeting info.

It's clear that we could spend more than a few meetings discussing hosts and that might not be such a bad thing.?

My thoughts regarding Godaddy, worth what you paid for them:

  1. If someone from Godaddy is nice enough to come speak to us, that doesn't mean they're the appropriate person to address security issues or any hosting issues for that matter as they simply may not be involved in that specific area of Godaddy operations. Large companies like that will also generally tend to address issues to the public as a whole, so if they've already spoken or addressed an issue, good luck getting anything more out of them, especially when there are matters of liability / performance guarantees / etc. involved.
  2. This goes for any host: If Godaddy's track record doesn't inspire confidence and there are hundreds of other very capable hosts available, every minute spent trying to get Godaddy to communicate about or address an issue that you may feel has not been adequately addressed is a minute you aren't finding the right host and moving. If the relationship isn't working and your integrity, reputation and revenue can be negatively affected if Godaddy does not perform, why gamble? Reassess and recalibrate your hosting expense parameters if necessary and weigh downtime, security and your ability to perform as a provider against finding a provider you're comfortable with and accept that you may need to spend more for a better product. You may NOT have to, but if you do, consider how much you WOULD spend when sites are down and your phone is ringing off the hook and are facing revenue losses in the short and long term if you lose clients. We can discuss shared vs VPS vs dedicated again at a future meeting if necessary.?
  3. ?Chris indicated he has a need for multiple accounts for the sake of having varied Ip address C blocks for SEO. Refer to #2 above: If Godaddy isn't working and they're not addressing issues to your satisfaction and there is a possibility of continuing issues, every day you stay with them is a day that you leave your business exposed. Sleep better at night and find a host you trust and that communicates to your level of expectation, you may be able to do so for the same price and if not, it may be some of the best money you ever spend. Same goes for your accountant, server admin, mechanic, financial advisor and doctor. :)?
  4. In my personal opinion and generally speaking, Godaddy is a HUGE provider and as such is not able to give the level of service that many smaller hosts do. I use them for domain names, but when I hosted email and websites with them years ago, I had issues, so I moved. Godaddy doesn't have the greatest reputation and I wouldn't consider them an acceptable host for any professional application, there are just too many awesome hosts out there. I have buddies that are in management / operations there and it is what it is and I call it how I see it. :) Years ago I started off at asmallorange.com with $2 hosting and as I moved up to more expensive shared hosting, VPS servers and then dedicated servers, I learned very quickly that hosting is just not a great place to try and save a buck. Many times you get what you pay for and if uptime if mission critical like it is for me (we work with banks, credit unions, etc.), then I LOVE paying my dedicated server bills each month. It's an investment in my business, insurance against uptime issues, enables me to give the best service possible and it helps me sleep better at night. :) Hopefully this helps.?

So let's hit the forums, looking forward to great discussion and if there are any other ways to enable communication involving azwpgroup.com or the meetup.com site, please let me know! [address removed]

Thanks!

Trace



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On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 7:31 PM, francine hardaway <[address removed]> wrote:
Well, I learned from this, and I just installed the backup plug-in. Thanks, all


On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Andrew Ryno <[address removed]> wrote:
I'm just going to add a few things here.

First of all, if you want to secure your WordPress installs, I'd recommend taking a look at this:?http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/three-tips-to-protect-your-wordpress-installation/. There are more things you can do, but this is a good start. Google for other ways to secure your install.

Second, I'm not entirely sure how you are setting up your blogs, but I would strongly recommend against doing the "1-click install" of WordPress or however it is branded through GoDaddy and other hosting providers. Download the code from wordpress.org, upload and configure yourself. Then do all of the security steps.

Also, back up your data using one of the MANY DB backup plugins/tools available. For example:?http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-db-backup/

Doing this will protect you from most attacks, and if you are still attacked, you at least have backups so that you will be saved.


Andrew Ryno
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On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 18:12, Chris Lang <[address removed]> wrote:
Joshua, Let's just agree that we disagree and drop this, we are both right OK?

Let's not waste more time on this than we have.

And NO, since I feed my kids and keep a roof over their heads with what I make online, no I can't really afford to waste money or more time on this. I simply requested that maybe GoDadday could take a moment to reassure us hosting there is now a little more secure.

- Chris Lang





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