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Atlanta Business Connection Message Board Archived Discussion › Biden, Not Obama, Is The Right Man For The Job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Biden, Not Obama, Is The Right Man For The Job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A former member
Post #: 56
Obama is respected in foreign countries like France, not Biden. He is slowly cleaning up the feces left by Bush. And now that Secretary of State, Colin Powell just signed on as a possible cabinet member for the Obama Administration, this can remove any doubt that we will be ready should we have a war the next 4 years.
A former member
Post #: 12
It’s interesting that you mentioned doing away with federal taxes all together. Although I’m a registered democrat, I was hoping that Huckabee would win. He wanted to do away with federal income tax because he found that there was a fatal flaw in the system. A very large portion of the federal income tax that we pay goes to calculating, tracking and collecting those very taxes, buildings, employees, computer systems, security systems, benefits, software and the cost of fixing the mistakes. If instead we increased our sales tax then we would have more money for the road ways, public utilities, etc, because it wouldn’t cost nearly as much to collect and track them.

And don’t get me started on how much more we could save in taxes if we did away with other unnecessary layers of our government.
A former member
Post #: 10
Once again I feel that having these entities in place i.e. the IRS is a way of providing "dignified wellfare". I think it's important that government produces jobs. I don't believe in "big government" in the since of big brother but i do believe in big government in the since of allowing people who may not have had access through other means to get a job and develop as a person. let's be real, it is through government intervention/employment that "minorities" in America have made their largest strides into acceptance. If we had waited on the "blind hand of the market"...well we'd have not made as much progress as we have today.

I still must point out the difference between my argument and Leroy's. I think if we had not given all the tax breaks and incentives over the last 15 years to companies that have exported the work force we would be in a much more fiscally stable condition. Though this crisis would have hit the financial market our dollar would not have been devalued as much do to the enormous debt we have taken on not collecting what was do us by companies while allowing those companies to reintroduce those foreign made products at a much lower price than the domestically produced products. Fix this issue and the U.S. dollar could still buy more around the world.

Leroy you are correct in making the point of the devalued homes over extention of hedge fund managers etc... But I think the greatest damage was done in the U.S. currencies devaluation do to not responding in a Nationalistic manner to the creation of the Euro as well as lending money/barrowing money/not collecting taxes/allowing those companies that export jobs to import cheaper products than domestically produced products etc. Our financial crisis is much greater than some greedy hedge fund guys stealing our investments and over valueing real estate while Americans purchased more than they could afford. The best way to get things correct is to collect what's owed to us, loan less to needy nations and give incintives to large companies that keep jobs domestic.
A former member
Post #: 1
finally!
an intelligent meet up discussion item. i agree with the author almost 90%.
his campaign is a bill clinton campaign. his approach is a bill clinton approach. the democrats finally got it together in terms of strategy. the democrats were strategic enough to finally look at the voting numbers. they realized that if they could get "blacks" to the polls, then they would be able to have a running chance. obama is the poster child - black male, ambitious, clean background (that we know about), articulate, attractive, non threatening and most of all half white. he was acceptable.

but listen to the rhetoric - people we already have universal health care. also, the tax code is already favored towards people who make less than $250K. read. you would know that the "change" rhetoric is not change at all.

biden has legitimated the campaign and "sealed" the deal. so the democrats ran a good campaign strategy.

the 10% is disagree with. sarah palin is no push over. despite what many people may think about her, she is intelligent and formidable. the republicans just introduced their next poster child. once again the republican moved ahead of the curve and is beginning to acclimate the American public to a new face and one of a woman. they did the same thing with colon powell. agree or disagree. it was the republican party that introduced a likable, viable, articulate black man who was believable to the american public. he validated that black men could, would and did act with honor and valor. the american public began to accept a black man in a credible position of authority.

so obama is not winning because he is favored or chosen - but because the groundwork was laid with care and also because the public is tired of the republican party. people are not voting for him - they are voting against "republicians".

please read, learn the facts and become familiar with the issues.
A former member
Post #: 58
Please become familiar with your shift button.
A former member
Post #: 4
While I don't agree with all of the opinions voiced on this post, I am glad to see that it has sparked such discussion. I have never stated that the republicans should win this election. What I stated is that Biden should be at the top of the ticket.

It is my hope that the statements Obama has made about who and how he will tax small businesses when he is elected is just talk from a candidate trying to win. Any business owner doing any real gross is taxed enough. Let capitalism continue to reign supreme.

Leroy, I respect your opinions and hope that your business and family stay strong and prosper. But let us not forget that many people supported OJ Simpson and we see how that turned out. Let's show support based on something other than race.

Finally, I hope we have a meetup soon. I would love to meet the people in this group and have these types of discussions live as opposed to online. I think it would be very interesting speaking with those who have voiced their opinions as well as those who haven't.


You know, I am so glad I read this post! It made me take a closer look at the running candidates. Pierre what you are saying makes total sense. Obama may be too much of a "nice guy". Aggressive, but smart Biden is what this country needs.

To Mr. Estel, you make me laugh so much! You bring the edge this forum needs. You keep people on their toes!
Trina
A former member
Post #: 64
Thank you Trina. :)
Pierre D.
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Las Vegas, NV
Post #: 41
It is starting already. The ATF reported on Monday that they stopped a planned assassination of Barack Obama. I stated that I thought Joe Biden should be at the top of the ticket but not at the expense of a man's life. I hope Mr Obama stays alive long enough to savor the victory he is about to earn.
A former member
Post #: 75
It is starting already. The ATF reported on Monday that they stopped a planned assassination of Barack Obama. I stated that I thought Joe Biden should be at the top of the ticket but not at the expense of a man's life. I hope Mr Obama stays alive long enough to savor the victory he is about to earn.

Yep, you put a hex on the whole thing, Pierre. Thanks a lot.

j/k
A former member
Post #: 6
I hope Mr Obama stays alive long enough to savor the victory he is about to earn.


My thoughts exactly.

I was watching MSNBC ( I could be wrong) and it was said that there are 8% of registered voters that are undecided. Of this 8%, most if not all are white living in rural areas.
So, that 8% will magically tie McCain with Obama on election Day.
More was said but this is what I pulled from the discussion. I am not sure what type of math this man was going by but the way things are looking now, I think McCain is going to need a lot more than 8% to win this.
The big wigs are probably going to try something sneaky so McCain can win. Then, blame it on the voter's registration fraud or problems with early voting.
I just can't see why ANYONE would vote for McCain knowing Palin would become VP. Picture this: McCain has a heart attack, dies from viagra overdoes, or just from old age. Palin would be the President. What respect would America get if Palin ( who did not even graduate from community college) is in Office!
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