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Re: december d3sj

From: geoffrey
Sent on: Monday, December 7, 2009 10:47 PM

D3SJ* meeting 9 December 2009:

Dealing with global warming deniers

If we encounter individuals who, against all evidence, claim the Earth is flat or that the Sun revolves round the Earth, it may be best to avoid them and to dismiss them as deluded bufoons. Other untruths however can and do result in harm and death to vulnerable people and must be confronted. In the year 2000, the South African president Thabo Mbeki denied that AIDS was caused by the HIV virus and he sourced maverick scientific denialists to back him up, in order to avoid funding antiretroviral programs. Many thousands have undoubtedly died as a result. The tobacco companies selectively sought out and paid scientific prostitutes willing to testify that smoking does not lung cancer, again to the detriment of the public. Holocaust deniers continue to promote neoNazi racism in the service of their bigotry. The invasion of Iraq by the Bush, Blair and Howard axis was based on outright lies, which has directly and indirectly caused the death of more than a million Iraqis. Dr. David Kelly, the British scientist who contradicted Blair, was hounded to death.

The overwhelming weight of scientific evidence show that anthropogenic global warming is real and is dangerous, yet the deniers continue to repeat their lies to avoid changing an unsustainable profligate ?first world? lifestyle. Last November, Professor B.N. Upreti from Nepal provided personal testimony to our group about the alarming retreat of the Himalayan glaciers. More than a billion people depend on that summer meltwater for crop irrigation. Global warming deniers can rightly be regarded as deluded and/or despicable psychopaths.

Dr. Phillip Machanick is our speaker for December. He is a computer scientist who works at the Institute for Molecular Bioscience, University of Queensland. His work requires that he understands the scientific research of other fields. He does not claim to be a climate science expert but he has studied the climate science literature more deeply than most of us and he promotes the conclusions of the top climate scientists of the world. He has looked at the misconceptions commonly propogated by the media and the internet and presents factual counter-arguments and outlines how to find the resources to counter these arguments.

See for an earlier version of the talk.

Date & time: Wednesday 9 December 2009

5.30pm - biscuits, coffee/tea

6.00pm - presentations & discussion

7.15pm - meeting concludes - enthusiastic participants are encouraged to continue discussion over dinner at another venue

Venue: Sullivan Nicolaides Pathology Boardrooms, 134 Whitmore St (Swann Rd end), Taringa. Go to reception (off upper car park) & signs will direct from there.

Parking is available on site (upper car park- anywhere there is a space or lower car parks in the non reserved spaces).There's also plenty of nearby on-street parking (with no meters/time limit) at that time of day.

Who should attend: Any intelligent person interested in the common good.


* Doctors and Scientists for Sustainability and Social Justice:

We invite participation from all members of the public who agree with the medical and scientific principles that we should use evidence, reason and fairness as the primary means to address the issues facing society

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