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RE: [camel-city-gamers-wsnc] Our Old Meeting Place Final Word

From: Wade K.
Sent on: Thursday, February 7, 2013 6:16 PM
I thought you were tactful and informative. Thank you.

From: [address removed]
To: [address removed]
Subject: [camel-city-gamers-wsnc] Our Old Meeting Place Final Word
Date: Thu, 7 Feb[masked]:11:08 -0500

It was my intention for the group to just move forward, without going into details as to why we are now, as Tim puts it, "a wandering band of nomads".  I underestimated human curiousity. So, I am going to say this once, here and now. After this, our old place is a part of our history.
About 2 weeks ago, after thatweek's Tuesday meetup, I sent a friendly email to the owner of our old meeting place. We had had a problem at that meetup with no working bathroom facilities.  The previous Thursday night (the nightof the heavy rains that turned to snow) the roof leaked again, pretty bad this time. That Tuesday night I discussed the situation a couple of members of the leadership team. I thought about it for a few days, before sendingthe email. I was cordial, thanking him for his continued support, as well as complimneting him on the excellent service of his staff. I did this before addressing the group's concerns.
A few days later, I receive a scathing response from the owner. He said we weren't spending as much as he thought we would be, that we run the heat/AC when he never turns that on, implied that we may have caused the problems with the women's bathroom, as the drain was apparantly clogged with "personal hygenie" items (to be delicate), and that on the night of the rain and snow, someone from the group was abusive to his staff. He went on to say that if we wanted to continue using his place, we would need to pay $30/visit for the use of the heat/AC; $50/visit for a roof that doesn't leak; and (since our ordering food and having the staff bring it out to us was apparently a drag on their cooking and delivering duties) he would assign us our own server, at a rate of $10 + tip(wasn't clear if that was per hour or not).
I forwarded this to the leadership team, and invited discussion. Of the leadership members who responded, all said the tone of the email pretty much shutdown further communication. We met and made a plan to start looking for alternative places. After that meeting, I sent him another email, lettinghim know that I had discussed his proposal with the leadership and we had decided it would be best for both parties to part ways. I closed by wishing him well. It was a brief, cordial and I think professional email.
Ok, there it is. Now as I said in my announcement yesterday, I have no control over what you do personally. I am going to ask that no one post anything about the old place, any where, that gives the impression you are speaking for the group. As the leader/organizer, I believe it is my place to speak for the group. Going forward, I do not wish to discuss this issue any further. Again, if you all want to discuss this privately, I can't stop you, but it is  officially a closed matter on the group's site/message boards on I also don't want discussions at future meetups. The situation is what it is, and we just need to put this behind us and move on. I know this may seem "heavy-handed" or dictatorial, but I can see no useful purpose in discussing this any more, or running down the old place and/or its owner. I think we are better people than that any way. I think we are a classier group of people.
Thank you all,

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