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Re: [webdesign-396] Requests for classes and what's going on.

From: Aoirthoir An B.
Sent on: Thursday, July 29, 2010 2:41 PM
All good ideas. In fact we were proposing working on an HTML5 CMS. There are lots of folks that would like to learn and learn with hands on experience. Trying to do so and getting paid for it though is a job. In order to do so we need people that want to have sites and want to pay us to do them. I'm not exactly salesman of the year though so we're left with figuring things out on our own. :D

Kind Regards,
Aoirthoir

--- On Thu, 7/29/10, bryan <[address removed]> wrote:

> From: bryan <[address removed]>
> Subject: Re: [webdesign-396] Requests for classes and what's going on.
> To: [address removed]
> Date: Thursday, July 29, 2010, 12:42 PM
> 
> 
>  
>  
> 
> why don't you, me, and the others in the group
> take on real world projects 
> and charge a few bucks for the end product. this way those
> who want to learn can 
> watch and learn and those who want to participate can do so
> and get a final cut 
> of the fee. for example if a company wants a basic static
> webpage say 5 pages. 
> we can have our css people layout the site, then our
> typography enthusiasts 
> handle the copy. and our graphics people create the images
> and illustrations. 
> and we could keep the mock up and show it to other
> potential clients.
> ?
> even more, we could have our dynamic programmers
> create a simple database 
> and hook it up with a language like php or asp, whatever
> and add more value to 
> the finished product. finally, tie the end product to be
> social network friendly 
> as well. what do you think of that? if we started with one
> job a week at around 
> $1000 a piece that will surely give use enough for the
> effort and to straighten 
> out a business office. let me know your thoughts.
> ?
> bryan
> ?
> 
> In a message dated 7/29/[masked]:29:44 P.M. Eastern
> Daylight Time, 
> [address removed] writes:
> Bryan, 
>   
> 
> We've got to kinds of meetings. The first is a simple
> presentation. 
>   Those topics vary and we know about them usually about a
> month in advance. 
>   Stuart is in charge of those through the Cleveland PCUGs
> Web Sig.
> 
> We 
>   also allow other organizations to post their web related
> meetings. Some few 
>   have taken us up on this.
> 
> Finally we run classes and study groups. 
>   Because my income has dropped and my expenses risen (of
> course) I can't afford 
>   to do more than one or two of these a month for free. But
> if donations are 
>   present to help cover the costs or I charge, then class
> schedules will be 
>   based on level of experience.
> 
> So for beginners in certain categories we 
>   will start out using the Head First series from
> O'Reilly. Each of these would 
>   have a prerequisite of knowledge in the preceding book
> (or other 
>   prerequisites:
> 
> I will be putting together a full list on the meetup so 
>   folks can go there. But basically the classes would
> include introductory HTML 
>   and CSS. Then from there Php and mysql introductory. Then
> Javascript. And we 
>   would move on with other classes for more advanced folks.
> Each of these would 
>   be a series of classes in their own right.
> 
> Hope that 
>   helps.
> Aoirthoir
> --- On Thu, 7/29/10, bryan 
>   <[address removed]> wrote:
> 
> > From: bryan 
>   <[address removed]>
> > Subject: Re: [webdesign-396] Requests 
>   for classes and what's going on.
> > To: [address removed]
> > 
>   Date: Thursday, July 29, 2010, 11:57 AM
> > 
> > 
> >? 
>   
> >? 
> > 
> > what were the top few topics for discussion 
>   for the
> > next few possible 
> > meeting? thanks, bryan
> > 
>   ?
> > 
> > In a message dated 7/29/[masked]:10:18 A.M. 
>   Eastern
> > Daylight Time, 
> > [address removed] 
>   writes:
> > How ya 
> >?? been? My number is 440.521.7214. 
>   Just for future
> > reference it is posted on the 
> >?? 
>   meetup main page, so any meetup member can contact me.
> > 
> > Kind 
>   
> >?? Regards,
> > Aorthoir.
> > 
> > --- On Thu, 
>   7/29/10, dave van horn 
> >?? <[address removed]> 
>   wrote:
> > 
> > > From: dave van horn 
> >?? 
>   <[address removed]>
> > > Subject: Re: [webdesign-396] Requests 
>   for 
> >?? classes and what's going on.
> > > To: 
>   [address removed]
> > > 
> >?? Date: Thursday, 
>   July 29, 2010, 6:47 AM
> > > Hey guy, 
> > > 
> > > Hope 
>   
> >?? you are well. Can you shoot me your number
> so we 
>   can
> > > chat? Have a 
> >?? couple of things to ask 
>   you. One is I have a
> > > volleyball friend of mine 
>   
> >?? who is a COBOL guy looking for
> > > work. Long 
>   time freelancer. 
> > > 
> >?? 
> > > 
>   Peace
> > > 
> > > db
> > > 
> > > Sent from my 
>   
> >?? iPhone
> > > 
> > > On Jul 28, 2010, at 
>   11:13 PM, Aoirthoir An Broc 
> >?? 
>   <[address removed]>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
>   
> > > 
> >?? Kevin,
> > > 
> > > Can you 
>   give me a ring? I got a new fone and in 
> >?? the
> > > 
>   transfer lost some numbers. Also even if we run some 
> >?? 
>   classes
> > > at Zak's there's too many requests for
> > different 
>   types 
> >?? of
> > > classes, that I'm just not going to 
>   be able to run
> > them all
> > > 
> >?? downtown. So 
>   a good number will still be at the office
> > in
> > > Fairview 
>   
> >?? Park.
> > > 
> > > Kind Regards,
> > 
>   > 
> > > --- On Wed, 7/28/10, 
> >?? Kevin T 
>   <[address removed]>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
>   From: 
> >?? Kevin T <[address removed]>
> > > 
>   Subject: Re: [webdesign-396] 
> >?? Requests for classes 
>   and
> > > what's going on.
> > > To: 
> >?? 
>   [address removed]
> > > Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 9:36 
>   
> >?? PM
> > > Zak,
> > > 
> > > Is your 
>   place wheelchair accessible? I'm also 
> >?? willing
> > 
>   > to host, but I only have room for 4 or 5 extra
> > bodies.
> > 
>   > 
> >?? 
> > > -Kevin
> > > 
> > > 
>   From:
> > > Zak MacDonald 
> >?? 
>   <[address removed]>
> > > To:
> > > 
>   
> >?? [address removed]
> > > Sent: Wed,
> > 
>   > July 28,[masked]:55:50 
> >?? PM
> > > Subject: 
>   Re:
> > > [webdesign-396] Requests for classes and 
> >?? 
>   what's going
> > > on.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
>   Joe,
> > > 
> > > I've 
> >?? got a loft but its 
>   on the East end of
> > > downtown.? Nice big TV 
>   
> >?? and
> > > lots of space, if you did evenings I'd 
>   be happy
> > to
> > > 
> >?? host.
> > > 
>   
> > > -Zak
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:46 PM, 
>   
> >?? Aoirthoir An Broc
> > > 
>   <[address removed]>
> > > 
> >?? 
>   wrote:
> > > Howdy folks!
> > > 
> > > In order to add to 
>   the 
> >?? readability of this email I am
> > > going to 
>   avoid a wall
> > > of text 
> >?? and just post bullet 
>   points. Responses are
> > > welcome:D.
> > > 
> > > 
>   
> >?? * Folks keep calling me via phone and
> requesting
> > 
>   > classes.
> > > 
> >?? 
> > > * Sometimes I 
>   give'm but we gits da problems:
> > > 
> > > 1. 
>   
> >?? Jumping ahead of the current topic.
> > > 2. 
>   Different knowledge levels for 
> >?? everyone.
> > > 3. 
>   Seating problems, table issues.
> > > 4. White board 
>   
> >?? fallins on the floor!
> > > 5. "What's on that 
>   tiny LCD at the front 
> >?? of
> > > the class? I CANT 
>   SEE
> > > IT?"
> > > 6. Meeso broke not make 
>   
> >?? rent for class place.
> > > 
> > > Ok so 
>   here are some solutions to get 
> >?? classes back on
> > 
>   > course, on schedule and
> > > ON a REGULAR 
> >?? 
>   basis:
> > > 
> > > 1. We stick with a book (in this case any of 
>   the 
> >?? head
> > > first series).
> > > 
>   Everyone in a class MUST have its 
> >?? book.
> > > 2. 
>   To come to a class you MUST meet its
> > > 
> >?? 
>   prerequisites.
> > > 3. Two conference tables (help might already be
> on 
>   
> >?? the
> > > way for that:) ).
> > > 4. El 
>   cheapo wall paneling will be the 
> >?? whiteboard, NOz
> > 
>   > I am notz the
> > > kiddings :)
> > > 5. I need at 
>   
> >?? least a 32" LCD. Anyone know where I
> > > can get 
>   a cheap used one?
> > > 
> >?? 6. Basically to do the 
>   classes I need to help cover my
> > > rent and 
> >?? 
>   internet.
> > > Thats $250 + $50/month.
> > > The solutions are 
>   either I 
> >?? charge, say about 15 bucks
> > > for each 
>   class per
> > > student, or we 
> >?? get enough
> > 
>   > donations to help.
> > > 
> > > Also as my schedule is 
>   
> >?? more flexible, if I know that
> > > some
> > 
>   > can only make
> > > 
> >?? classes during the day on 
>   Wednesday, or Thursday
> > > evening or Sunday 
> >?? 
>   night, I
> > > can modify my schedule to meet theirs'
> > 
>   (especially
> > > in 
> >?? the case of paid
> > > 
>   classes).
> > > 
> > > So what are yen's 
> >?? 
>   thoughts?
> > > 
> > > Kind Regards,
> > > Aoirthoir the 
>   Drinker of the 
> >?? Mountain Dew!
> > > 
> > > 
>   
> > > 
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