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Vince,
As far as carrying folks, agreed on all of that. My mother
had needs, and I had to carry her, it was not easy. But with help I was able
to do it. Still, there are concerns as you have mentioned. Thus I think the
best situation is to offer additional classes as I have, outside of here with
the intention of eventually having a facility that is accessible for all.
Now as to Stored Procedures, of course my good man! That's
what I use for nearly all of my work. So that will eventualyl be part of a
more advanced class in the coming weeks.
Aoirthoir
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From: Vincent Miller <[address removed]>
Subject: RE: [webdesign-396] Classes now back on track, seeking feedback...
To: [address removed]
Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 10:59 AM
Aoirthoir,
the latest reply to the groups drupal vs joomla question brought up a
question for me: in your mysql classes, will you be getting into mysql 5s
stored procedures? I have little use for an intro-to-mysql class, which is
why I have kept silent and have not attended, but I have no experience with
stored procedures and their availability now has caught my attention. I���ll
probably start experimenting with them myself, but if you���ll be covering this
(with experience), I may be interested.
Since
I���m talking��� of the ���we���ll carry people up/down the stairs������ it���s nice that
people are willing to help, but be very cautious. One word: ���liability���. If
anyone gets hurt, good intentions or not, the insurance companies will come
after peoples heads. Everyone involved: the helpers, the lease holder, the
property owner, etc��� Accessibility is true or false. Sorry to be a
downer on that one, but red flags started flying when I read of that.
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Subject: Re: [webdesign-396] Classes now back on track, seeking
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Thanks for starting the meetings again. Please don't have
the meetings on the 2nd Saturday (GCPCUG.org meeting),
and definitely not on the 3rd Saturday. On the third Saturday is my Web
Development SIG (www.WebSigCleveland.org ) meeting which does have attendees that also attend the MySQL
classes. You can see a list of tech events at Google calendar
maintained at: http://clevelandtechevents.com/
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Feb 24, 2010, at 3:42 PM, Aoirthoir An Broc wrote:
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Ron,
For this meetup I try to be as inclusive as I can. I understand that
circumstances (my income) might impair that desire to some degree. Still,
if it is within my reach, even if it takes a bit of work, I want to meet
the needs of others. So along those lines I consider the following:
1. Not all folks could afford a monthly fee for the meetup. So their
needs are met by me keeping it free. This doesn't preclude posting events
that require a charge, and those that cannot afford such events would be
excluded. I hope this is balanced by my offering the meetup and some (or
all) of my own events in the meetup for free.
2. Some folks have access needs. Folks that require wheelchairs,
scooters, canes or other ambulatory tools will find it difficult climbing
the long flight of stairs to the new location. Heck I find it difficult.
Since I have no easy solution to this, I hope I can balance it by offering
an extra class elsewhere. I realize this creates a segregation, which I
greatly regret. But I will be working over the next few months to find a
more apropos place. But that will entail funds, which right now I've not
got.
3. Some folks need visual tools. Perhaps larger monitors, or speaking
software. If I have the means to accommodate, I will. Right now we've not
run into this, but I expect some time I will.
These are just some examples of needs that many of us don't think
about because we take our ease of access for granted. Myself, so much so
that it didn't dawn on me about the steps until a short time ago.
Of course each of us has other needs besides these. Since I like to
help, if I can, I will.
Speaking of which is Saturday acceptable for people for now?
--- On Wed, 2/24/10, Ronald Finnerty <[address removed]>
wrote:
From: Ronald Finnerty <[address removed]>
Subject: Re: [webdesign-396] Classes now back on track, seeking feedback...
To: [address removed]
Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 12:02 PM
not really trying to be funny but what do you mean by
"needs".
Sometimes i am quite daft...does that qualify as a
"need".
I think your offer if great, as it is a much more intense time
constraint on you.
I will adapt to wherever and when ever you decide just let me know
the details.
I will adjust to what others prefer first.
thanks again for doing this.
From: Aoirthoir An Broc <[address removed]>
Subject: Re: [webdesign-396] Classes now back on track, seeking
feedback...
To: [address removed]
Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 10:56 AM
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Kevin,
There is no elevator but I think I have a solution for those that
arent. If I am teaching say about 4 people or fewer, then I can do that
easily enough at Beyond PC. Teaching the large group that we had here
is really difficult though, and other locations were as well. So I am
thinking that I could set up two classes. One during the week for a
handful of people and another at the new location for larger numbers. I
kow that means that those with needs would not be in person as a part
of the large groups, but it would also give them the advantage of more
focused attention, so I hope the trade off would be worth it.
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