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Where are the athiettes?

A former member
Post #: 30
I was overcome with flabbergastation on seeing that approximately 99.99% of the people present at the recent Arlington gathering were of the male persuasion. It reminds me that the French socialists and communists opposed giving women the right to vote in the 1940s because they would vote as their parish priests told them (they were right). Are women more credusticious than men? Or is it merely a female aversion for abstract ideas?
ralphellectual
ralphellectual
Washington, DC
Post #: 36
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You might ask yourself a different question as to the responsibility for the nonparticipation of women in the Arlington meetup. While you are generally correct, I believe, the DC area is not quite so dismal. Actually, DC is an exception, and you may find more freethinking women here in professional circles than you will in most places. If you attend the Washington DC atheist or humanist meetups, or the Beltway Atheist happy hours, or the monthly humanist introductions at the Morain Center, you will find a much greater representation of women than you normally would. There is also a group just for women freethinkers. There's quite a number of groups and organizations and diversity in the DC area. They just don't all get together at once.

But people have complained--especially single males--about the paucity of women in their circles, and the difficulty of hooking up with female atheists in general. Perhaps the women have some complaints of their own

Paradoxically, though, while I suspect that women are generally in the minority in these circles, the atheist/frethought/humanist movement has for decades seen women in leadership positions, even founding and running organizations such as FFRF and American Atheists.

But yeah, I do think that women are generally more conservative, propaganda and pop culture to the contrary. Also more resistant to critical thought, if not abstract thought that doesn't involve critical thinking. (Statistics, scientific work, financial and managerial thinking involve abstraction but usually not social and ideological criticism or philosophical depth.)
Wayne
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Bethesda, MD
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What is the Morain Center, or the Beltway happy hours?
ralphellectual
ralphellectual
Washington, DC
Post #: 37
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For general atheist web resources, see my web guide:

http://www.autodidact...­

There are three ways of reaching Beltway Atheists, which has a brand new meetup to its name as well:

Beltway Atheists Meetup Group
http://atheists.meetu...­

Beltway Atheists
http://www.beltwayath...­

Beltway Atheists on MySpace.com
http://groups.myspace...­

The Morain Center, as I learned earlier this week, is the office of the American Humanist Association:

http://www.americanhu...­

There are several other organizations with headquarters in Washington. There are regional organizations, primarily WASH (Washington Area Secular Humanists). There is a local freethought group for women only, and there are several grouplets about. A number of individuals in the area have their own web sites.

This meetup must really find another venue. The noise level at Cosi's inhibits conversation, and I will not attend another meeting there.
A former member
Post #: 4
Gentlemen,

I assure you that we have no aversion to abstract ideas or critical thought. And as soon as I can find the word "credusticious" in any dictionary, I'll let you know if we're more of it. As for the dearth of female atheists, this has been an ongoing and unresolved topic of conversation since I joined Meet-up a few years ago. The evolutionary theory proposes that we are the peacekeepers and therefore less likely to voice our skepticism, something still considered "unladylike." Another theory, offered by Frank Zindler, is that women tend to be less educated than men and therefore more susceptible to groupthink. (Ladies, send your letters to Frank, not me.) And let's not forget the feminist theory: we're still raising the children, doing the housework, and working twice as hard to make half your salary. Conclusion: we're too freakin' busy. So much for the first theory.

Marisa
ralphellectual
ralphellectual
Washington, DC
Post #: 38
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Indeed, there is a distinction to be made, between (1) the existence of women atheists, freethinkers, critical thinkers, abstract thinkers, etc., and (2) participation of same in groups and organizations. One should not make unwarranted inferences about (1) based on (2). And if there is a dearth of women's participation, perhaps some of the guys should look in the mirror for their answer.
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