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Ethical Philosophy: Ethics of The Popes QUESTIONS

From: Richard M.
Sent on: Saturday, May 26, 2012 11:22 AM

The 2,000 Year Ethical History of the

Roman Catholic Popes

Part IV: Questions For Discussion


How About Doing Good Works?In all these books I recall about a half dozen references to doing good works, mostly about feeding the poor.   Billions pass through their hands from the poorest to the richest people in the world and only a tiny bit goes to hungry people.   But then again…


What Did Jesus Say About “Good Works?”– You may recall from our study of Jesus’ actual words in Mark. 

  1. worship the Hebrew God
  2. do it more personally and not with rituals, public shows, etc.
  3. be nice to each other.


That’s it!  No mention of war, child abuse, abortion, birth control, homosexuality and certainly nothing about feeding the poor.  (Remember “The poor you will have with you always?”)  Even by Jesus’ low standards, the popes have failed miserably.  True?


Evil Never Sees Itself As Evil – It always sees itself a good, noble, self-sacrificing.  (Albert Speer said of Hitler, “You cannot see the devil when his hand is on your shoulder.”) Is there a connection between calling yourself good and being evil?  How about calling yourself infallibly good?    


Medieval World views - Modern popes ACTUALLY BELIEVE there is a supernatural deity who tells people what to do, through the pope.  That deity is not asking or advising, simply telling them.  God in no democrat, he is a monarch.   Life doesn’t matter, only believing in him and obeying the Church matters.   How do we deal with people like that?    


Make Roncalli and Instant Saint – There was some discussion of simply declaring Roncalli a saint but it was rejected because…wait for it….wait for it… here it comes….


It would reflect badly on Pius XII

(Roncalli’s predecessor also know as Hitler’s Pope)


No New Blood – No pun intended. – Human behavior is the same in all institutions but in more egalitarian institutions, sometimes fresh ideas get in.  That is, people get in who are not insiders.  The RCC can’t do that.  The insiders elect more insiders.

Is that a feature of an organization that creates evil results?




For Your Further Consideration


It was legal and moral in their day - A lot of the stuff the popes did was legal in their day.  Making your nephew rich was not only legal but morally expected.    There was much complaining from outside Rome about such practices, but inside Rome it was all expected.   Do we today accept the conventional legal and moral code of our society WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT IT? 


Infallibility means FREE from error – it does not mean appropriate, rational, the right thing to do right now, etc.  It only means that it is free from being wrong.  They are very slippery with words.  I found that frequently the RCC says that the words on the page do not mean what the words of the page say. 


Conclave Dealings not Secret – Although supposedly secret, you can read about the wheelings and dealings inside the conclaves that are electing popes.  Even today, cardinal X will support cardinal Y, then shift his vote and support to cardinal Q.  They are still getting in deadlocked and voting for place holders. 


You Can’t Argue With His Holiness – Unlike other organizations, Catholics can’t argue with the pope.  You can’t outvote him in a convention, election or meeting.  Historically all they can do is say “yes your holiness” and then poison him. 


Qualifications for Popery – A “popable” (English version of Italian word) cardinal is often one that is just old and sick.  They plan for him to die and get out of the way for the next guy.  Candidates would often pretend to be ill and once elected, reveal themselves a very healthy. 


Church History of Pedophile Priests since AD 60


Former Priest Explains How Pedophilia is Kept Secret By RCC etc.


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