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China And The New World Order.

  • Jul 3, 2013 · 6:30 PM
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Many have argued that the growth of China and indeed other growing economies will fundamentally change the world we live in within the next 50 years. This meeting is being held to discuss this and how it will impact on most of us in our lifetime.


This meeting is being hosted by Nick De Bois MP. Nick is the MP for Enfield North on the All Party Group on China and secretary to the 1922 Committee. He regularly meets with the Prime Minister advising him on views of backbench MPs. Nick also serves on the Justice Select Committee.

Goldman Sachs has predicted that China will overtake the US as the world’s largest economy in 2027. Its growth from 100 years ago, when it was a peasant economy being comprehensively exploited by foreigners, has been extraordinary.

How will the newly restored China look, and how will other countries interact with it? Will the West be undermined fatally, or will the astonishingly successful Western models for the economy, state and society be adopted by China?

Other speakers include,

Martin Jacques is the author of the global best-seller When China Rules the World: the End of the Western World and the Birth of a New Global Order, which was first published in 2009. It has since sold over a quarter of a million copies and been translated into eleven languages. He is a visiting senior research fellow at the London School of Economics, IDEAS, a centre for the study of international affairs, diplomacy and grand strategy. He is also a visiting professor at Tsinghua University, Beijing, and a fellow of the Transatlantic Academy, Washington DC.

Roy Graff holds a BA degree in Chinese and Economics from the School of Oriental and African Studies (SOAS), University of London, and speaks business level Mandarin Chinese fluently. As a keen supporter of sustainable development and environmental protection he provides pro-bono time to causes he is passionate about. Currently Roy serves as Project Director – Eco Heritage Tourism at JUCCCE. He has held several volunteer positions including Vice President of communications at PACE (Professional Association for China’s Environment) in China and council member of Tourism Concern in the UK. Roy cooperates with UNESCO, IUCN and other bodies to promote a sustainable and ethical tourism industry in China.

For over two hundred years we have lived in a western-made world, one where the very notion of being modern was synonymous with being western.

Some like Martin Jacques in his Book “When China Rules The World” has argued that China will replace the United States as the world's dominant power. In so doing, it will not become more western but the world will become more Chinese. He also argues that China is different from the West and will remain so: we can only understand China in its own terms not through a Western lens or a belief that China should be like us.

Is his argument right that the global shifts in power since the Western financial crisis is now seeing us at the beginning of a Chinese World Order and that the decline of the United States may well prove faster than currently anticipated?

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  • Ruby

    Very informative presentations, fascinating insights into Chinese culture and all-round enjoyable event!

    July 4, 2013

  • Ali H.

    this was an informative and wide ranging discussion on a significant global development and as Martin said, we need new empathic yardsticks for understanding Chinese mindset, culture and what's coming

    July 4, 2013

  • Howard S.

    Very good speakers and a wide range of questions - overall very thought provoking.

    July 4, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    The speakers were not as knowledgeable on China as I'd hoped but excellent issues raised by the audience.

    July 4, 2013

  • Joe M.

    Really enjoyed this evening. Can't wait for the next China session and others.

    July 4, 2013

  • Minmin

    Hi, is the Grant commit room easy to find? Please could someone give me direction on how to get there from Westminster station. Many thank. :-)

    July 3, 2013

    • Benoit C.

      Hey minmim I like the points you stressed tonight could you send me your email would like to stay in contact [masked]

      July 3, 2013

  • Peter F.

    An excellent session

    July 3, 2013

  • Miles J.

    Yes the organisation and the subject matter is excellent. Its a great oportunity and great meetup. Many thanks and long may this great work continue. It is greatly appreciated, many thanks to all who put this together.

    July 3, 2013

  • eliana m.

    Time to leave some feedback, although imaginable: Francis is doing a wonderful job at organising and managing these. I'm particularly grateful when the quality of the audience interventions or challenging comments enriches and adds value and meaningful information to the overall themes discussed, as it happened tonight.

    The step to policy review meetings and similar contributions to the 2015 date isn't far.

    1 · July 3, 2013

  • Miles J.

    A great event, but sorry I simply couldn't hear one word one of the speakers was saying. Even when he did grasp the mic hi muffled on and on, under his breath.

    July 3, 2013

  • Jeremy

    Very good indeed, many thanks!

    July 3, 2013

  • Miles J.

    packed meet up.. pity things called microphones were positively avoided, couldn't hear a word one of the speakers had to say, ...!!

    The issue is vital one and greater understanding of the Chinese society is amust.

    July 3, 2013

  • Dolly

    Apologies. I won't be able to get away from the office for a few more hours. (Gutted) Hope everyone enjoys the presentations and discussions.

    July 3, 2013

  • Michael K.

    Sorry, have to cancel. A late commitment getting in the way. A pity. Enjoy!

    July 3, 2013

  • Caroline

    So sorry to miss this, and for late notice, but unforeseen obligation has cropped up

    July 3, 2013

  • Mika

    Sorry, can't make it. Not feeling well. What a pity! But definitely interested in coming to the meeting on 20th July. Hope you all enjoy tonight's talk.

    July 3, 2013

  • Nick S.

    Hi Francis, I sent you a message saying I wouldn't be able to attend. Hope you got it. I'm sorry to miss the event.

    July 3, 2013

  • Fiona W.

    Sorry to miss it but I've got a really awful cold

    July 2, 2013

  • Miles J.

    I must alert to the back door access via all computer systems, and Manchurian Candiate type mind control, The Non Human Transhumanisation issues.
    We are being used to engineer ourselves out of our own reality.
    Agenda 2045 and Species termination

    July 2, 2013

  • Nadarajah

    Sorry I can not make it tomorrow

    July 2, 2013

  • Kathryn B.

    apologies - unfortunately now cannot attend....

    July 2, 2013

  • alessa r.

    Hello. I RSVPd, but I am sadly no longer able to attend. Please pass on my place to another interested member. Thanks.

    July 2, 2013

  • ANA R.

    still on holidays in Spain will put brain back after holidays

    July 1, 2013

  • Jessie H.

    Work commitments

    June 29, 2013

  • Christina M.

    Very much look forward to attending and hope to bring a guest.

    June 27, 2013

  • Ed

    Now won't be back in time, unfortunately.

    June 26, 2013

  • Ross C.

    I thought I had to pay £12?


    June 17, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Hello everybody. Need your help with understanding something. I have RSVP'ed this event, but not sure if I need to pay and if so then how and when and to whom?

    June 11, 2013

    • Francis S.

      If you want to take advantage of the £10 recurrent subscription then you can pay at­

      For those who want to join for one year only or one year at a time then the annual subscription this year will be £12. You can pay for the one year subscription either through paypalat­

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      June 15, 2013

  • Mika

    Hi Francis,

    I've purchased a ticket for the China talk but was wondering f I could bring a friend. Please let me know. Thanks.

    June 15, 2013

    • Francis S.

      Yes of course you can. The subscription you paid will not only give you access to this meeting but to all our network meetings and webinars in the next twelve months. It will also allow you to bring along a friend free to every event. Can you please add that you are bringing a friend on your RSVP.

      June 15, 2013

  • Julian C.

    This sounds interesting!

    June 14, 2013

  • Hermine

    I will be in China (Beijing) from the 26th of June to the 6th of July and hence cannot attend this meetup although I am very interested in the topic.

    June 14, 2013

  • Andrew K.

    We need to find a way to be in this new world order else we will be a third rate country. Multiple ways relying on our technical and intellectual skills and not on cheap labour.

    June 10, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    I visit a different Chinese city every year. It appears to me that China has growing economic problems because it is not collecting the economic rent of land. Annual land value tax (LVT) is what is required to stop land speculation and reward effort.

    June 10, 2013

  • Michael Y.

    hope to bring 2 guests

    June 10, 2013

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