Re: Re: [NYC-rb] a RoR class for developers @ GA in January

From: Dave N.
Sent on: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:25 AM
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Akshay Kumar <[address removed]> wrote:
Sorry boys but this is a complete ripoff no matter who is paying or how you slice it. If you are going to be "shamelessly advertising" on the list then it's __fair_play if you get some blowback from the list.

To publicly call someone a "ripoff artist" is borderline libelous. Certainly douchey.
But this is essentially paying 2800$ to two guys in a truck.

I have no issues charging people a lot of money for my time and experience, and I'm only one guy, in a station wagon I got from my parents.

You *do* have an issue with paying a lot of money for education, otherwise you wouldn't have taken the time to write all that. You believe that your 6 weeks of self-study is cheaper than, and superior to, the education provided by the party in question, and believe they're ripping people off. That's "having an issue".
As someone coming from a systems background who just started doing some web development I taught myself Ruby and Rails and it was nowhere near 2800$.

If you're not billing for the time you spent learning it, perhaps. If you do, and charge yourself a reasonable rate, then you learned Rails in what, 48 hours? I've been doing Rails for off and on for years, and I *still* wouldn't claim I "know Ruby and Rails". (Background: 20+ years of development, strong dynamic language background, thoroughly comfortable with metaprogramming, blah blah blah.)
That's all the Ruby you need to know for < 50$ on amazon. That should take you about a week or 2 weeks or maybe a bit more depending on your pace.

Reading a book for a week or two doesn't mean you "know Ruby". Even if you run all the examples. And create examples of your own. Book-fu is not a replacement for time.
For a second book I'd say use Jose Valim's Crafting Rails Application. He is the author of Devise and on the core team. It covers a ton of useful topics like writing generators, railties, rendering stack, active model, nosql examples and more. That's another 2 weeks and 50$ more to learn Rails.

I'd replace that with "Rails Antipatterns", which is of more immediate value to almost any Rails developer, particularly new ones.

Crafting... is a great book, but teaches a different class of techniques. Good ones, but ones that do not make an immediate, measurable difference in code quality, when compared to Antipatterns.


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