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Are Men Obsolete?

  • Oct 4, 2011 · 6:15 PM

It has now been 40+ years since the Feminist Movement in America began and at this Meetup we'll discuss, in particular, how this affected the male gender. Have men become so feminized from long-term exposure to feminist ideas in schools, at home, at work, in politics, in movies (where dominant, butt-kicking female action stars are increasingly prevelant), and from decades of depictions of emasculated "girly-men" portrayed as the cultural norm in the mass media that there's few masculine "Men" left?  Is Feminism to blame, or is something else at play? 

And how has this affected such dynamics as in 1)heterosexual romantic relationships; 2)the traditional male/father role in the home whereby women increasing "lead" the family; 3) politics; 4)the workplace; 5)the legal system and the way society now treats criminals as "victims" and virtually anyone with hurt feelings (in certain contexts) can initiate a lawsuit - and be taken seriously; 6) the educational system; 7)appropriate personal "boundaries"; etc., etc. etc.  Are there increasingly too few emotionally-strong/masculine role models for men left (particularly in urban areas) that virtually no one even understands what it means to be a man?

Even numerous "scientific studies" now suggest that children raised with 2 female parents are the best developed and receive the best care (based on the standards of those doing the studies). Do we even need Men anymore, other than as sperm donors?  Are Men obsolete?

Helpful event links provided by Alex:
>The Male Privilege Checklist:
>Ways sexism harms men:
>More ways sexism harms men:
>Feminism 101:
>Criticism of the "Men's Rights" movement:
>Libertarian Feminism:
>Women and the Invisible Fist (more on libertarian interpretations of feminism):

>Introductory comments by members, including how the question relates to Philosophy 
>Briefly defining the terms in the question
>Arguments suggesting Men are obsolete (from list #1-7 above)
>Arguments suggesting Men are not obsolute (from list #1-7 above)
>What are the consequences if Men are obsolete?
>Concluding remarks of participants

NOTE: No purchase is necessary to attend this event, which is scheduled to begin at 6:15pm; but we typically do not start the actual discussion until up to 30 minutes later, allowing members to get something to eat, socialize, as well as to arrive a little later than the posted time.

Tsom is a quiet, fast-casual restaurant with an international salad bar, as well as dinners ranging from $5-$8. The average meal is around $6 + tax. Our last Meetup at this venue was held on the patio, but due to unpredictable parking lot noise at the last event here, as well as the warm weather this time of year, we'll be inside for this event. (Please do not bring outside food into the venue.)                                                                                                              

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  • Dale

    This was very interesting and although I came there and first was being funny this is a serious and useful topic and I truly learned and appreciate the experience.

    October 6, 2011

  • A former member
    A former member

    Very good! I appreciated hearing all the comments. It's always great how everyone can discuss and listen to others regardless of agreement. The topic was a bit scattered but even with jumping around, many great points were raised!

    October 5, 2011

  • Maribel T.

    shoot! so sorry i didn't go, i thought it was today. Hope you guys had a great discussion.

    October 5, 2011

  • Steve

    Great insights by our members, as usual; and Cindy was especially strong and philosophical. Though I was a little disconcerted by our group's hesitancy to make generalizations about gender, as they kept insisting that people are unique (as if I didn't know that). The point is we can't discuss the uniqueness of all 7 billion people in two hours. We can, however, make some generalizations based on scientific findings and generally-recognized biological differences. My big concern with this issue is that men aren't typically being authentically masculine (when it is authentic for them to do so - and, of course, only the invididual can assess or deny what is authentic for him/her) and this is affecting relationships, the workplace, politics, the legal system, child rearing, etc., etc., etc. In my mind, it is an extremely fundamental, basic philosophical question to ask: Who I am? Integrating philosophy starts there. Apprehending that and expressing it is part of being "philosophical."

    October 4, 2011

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