RE: [bike-132] Happy Friday from Portland Bike Commuting!

From: Bron
Sent on: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:39 AM
Hmm... not to get off-topic, but this raises a good question: I always thought that bit of Washington Ave by the highway actually *was* part of the highway, and that bikes were verboten... can anyone clarify?
 

Regards,

Bron

 


From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Zack
Sent: Tuesday, June 23,[masked]:27 AM
To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: [bike-132] Happy Friday from Portland Bike Commuting!

Alls I is saying is: On slowish streets like peninsular Congress I tend to the left (or center line) whereas on big busy roads (like on busy streets in bigger cities, or bridges, or that bit of Washington Ave that seems to run along the highway–no one ever gets doored by a car stopped in the break-down lane) I tend right. 

For example coming over the Casco Bay Bridge from SoPo I ride on the right side of he roadway but as the cars start to slow, I merge to the left lane to take an left turn off the bridge. In heavy traffic it is easier to get left (as the cars are going slower) then in moderate traffic with the cars whooshing down. 

Also you might be surprised how easy it is to catch a glimpse of shadow through a car window as it lunges against the door. Some riders make a particular show either with a startling shout (e.g., "DOOR!) or an abrupt brake [SQUEAK!], followed by a  "Tsk" or a  dejected shrug.

Zb

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Kenneth O'Brien <[address removed]> wrote:

On Jun 22, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Zack wrote:

My general rule of thumb is that in slower traffic i tend more to the left and in faster traffic more to the right. this tends to work pretty well in terms of dooring as people are less likely to get out of their cars on roads with fast traffic (e.g., often there is no parking, like on Franklin st. Art.). it is also a good habit to look into the cars to see if anyone is getting ready to get out.

Perhaps some things in bicycling are tough calls with imperfect solutions. However, dooring is not one of them. Each individual bicyclist has the 100% solution in their own hands - and each bicyclist should take advantage of that 100% solution. Regardless speed traffic typically flows in an area near parked cars when a bicyclist is not present, bicyclists should ride outside all dooring zones, all the time. As a matter of fact, in areas with higher typical speeds, I choose roadway positions with a little _extra_ margin from hazards rather than less. Probably, I would be a little extra left if typical speeds along the roadway were higher (and I would be _a_lot_ more left if the increased speed I'm talking about is my own on the bicycle - going down a hill for instance.)

Bicyclists need to assign themselves reasonable scanning duties. Therefore they should not take on new and probably ineffective duties (like studying the insides of each and every parked car ahead.) All that attention and analysis is best redirected toward road surfaces and intersection conditions ahead.

Also, when you ride fully outside the dooring zone you are in better positioned to see and be seen - with respect to the edge-of-road-obstacle parked cars represent. It's the right place to be for more reasons than just dooring.

Sorry Zack. Disagree with your recommendations on this point.

We need to teach bicyclist to stop fearing overtaking traffic. This misplaced fear leads to things like the culture missing the obvious and easy 100% solution to the dooring issue. If the concern to stay more right is only from dislike of creating perceived inconvenience to overtaking traffic rather than fear of overtaking traffic... this still represents a poor choice for  balancing bicyclist _safety_ versus perceived overtaking traffic _convenience_.

Ken






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