March 7, 2011 7:00 PM - 18 attended

Outlets for Design Creativity that Require No Art, Custom Tools, or Programming

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I think it would be fun to have a discussion and demonstration of some of the in-game outlets for game creation/design that don't really have any prerequisite skills. Many of our talks have been technical, so it might be interesting to discuss and demo some in-game creation tools like Little Big Planet 2, Halo Reach's Forge, and Knytt Stories. Would anyone be interested in something like this?

  • PMac
    PMac

    This sounds like fun. Hopefully, the group will take advantage of the UStream service Meetup offers so people that don't live in the area can participate.

    http://meetupblog.meetup.com/2010/02/new-feature-live-str...

    http://www.ustream.tv/producer

    Posted January 8, 2011 at 7:17 PM
  • Nick
    Nick

    I think that would be a great talk to give. Those, in-game tools are really good to include in our own games as well for a number of reasons. Anyway, I'd love to hear this talk, so who's going to give it?

    Posted January 10, 2011 at 12:38 PM
  • Wes Ehrlichman
    Wes Ehrlichman

    I wouldn't mind giving it.

    Posted January 31, 2011 at 2:38 PM
  • Wes Ehrlichman
    Wes Ehrlichman

    I changed the date and time to Monday, March 07, 2011 at 7:00 PM

    Posted January 31, 2011 at 2:39 PM
  • Daniel Eichling
    Daniel Eichling

    I have posted some new google documents that we will be discussing at the next meetup, so please make sure you check them out!

    Posted February 9, 2011 at 3:44 AM
  • Michael Glickert
    Michael Glickert

    I'll be there!

    Also, I need an artist to help me draw some sprites for a game I made. I'd like to launch in a few weeks on the App store with my iPhone game. I'll bring the finished product to the next MeetUp. Otherwise, if you're an artist, please contact me; 636-675-1215.

    Posted February 11, 2011 at 1:16 PM | 1 like
  • PMac
    PMac

    Hi, I live in Chicago. What are your requirements for the sprites?

    Posted February 11, 2011 at 1:51 PM
  • Michael Glickert
    Michael Glickert

    Umm, that they look cool I guess? I don't know if I've ever met you, I'm not a game developer. I don't really have any skills and put together a simple game using GameSalad. So I haven't really given it much thought other than some vague ideas in my head.

    Posted February 11, 2011 at 2:43 PM
  • Wes Ehrlichman
    Wes Ehrlichman

    I changed the location for this Meetup

    Posted February 11, 2011 at 2:51 PM
  • Wes Ehrlichman
    Wes Ehrlichman

    Hey Michael, are you going to be able to show your game off at the next meetup? Is it the color ball game or something else?

    Posted February 11, 2011 at 3:39 PM
  • Michael Glickert
    Michael Glickert

    You know it! It's something I've been messin' around with in the GameSalad program. I figured since I get the Pro version for free I might as well give it a shot and see if I can make a few bucks on something. I've really spent nearly every free minute of my time working on it.

    And, no, it's not the Color Extinction game that was created at GGJ. It's much more involved and intense. Well, intense may not be the word, but it's much better.

    Posted February 11, 2011 at 5:11 PM
  • Benjamin M.
    Benjamin M.

    Sounds good! I can't wait to see what you came up with. And you're absolutely right, may as well take advantage of that full license deal.

    Posted February 11, 2011 at 5:17 PM
  • Randy
    Randy

    I would take advantage of the deal... but for one, I don't have the deal, and two, I don't have a mac.

    Are we planning on doing the Livestream/Ustream thing? If so, I'm in a beta for a program called xsplit which is great for multiple cameras, or cameras and screen capture and sending it out to the web as a webcam stream. Just need a decent connection.

    I like the idea of spreading into the web.

    BTW, I'll be there unless something comes up. If we are doing the webcast let me know pls :P

    Posted February 13, 2011 at 1:41 AM | 1 like
  • PMac
    PMac

    This sounds great to me considering I live in Chicago.

    Posted February 13, 2011 at 3:18 PM
  • Nick
    Nick

    Hey Michael, what would you think about hosting the meetup? I'm curious to see your office. If people like it better, maybe we could switch to there.

    Posted February 13, 2011 at 3:29 PM
  • Benjamin M.
    Benjamin M.

    PMac, we definitely need to find a way to keep you in the loop from afar. A webcast or Skype conference would definitely be a good way for you to partake in the meetings.

    Posted February 13, 2011 at 11:00 PM
  • PMac
    PMac

    Appreciate it...Thanks...

    Posted February 13, 2011 at 11:19 PM
  • Benjamin M.
    Benjamin M.

    @Nick you wouldn't happen to have come across a black Sprint pouch that I may have left in the office have you?

    Posted February 14, 2011 at 8:53 AM
  • Michael Glickert
    Michael Glickert

    @ Nick - I would love to! The address for the office is 8230 Forsyth Blvd. Suite 100. 63105. It's about a quarter mile from WorldKi Headquarters. I have a large open space in the lobby and parking behind the building which makes it very convenient! We have around 18-20 chairs so we'll have plenty of room as well as a nice wall we can display a projector on.

    Posted February 14, 2011 at 9:11 AM
  • Daniel Eichling
    Daniel Eichling

    I changed the meetup location to Michael's space. I'll look into the ustream meetup thing PMac. Michael is there a decent wireless internet connection at your location that we could use for something like that?

    Posted February 14, 2011 at 9:35 PM
  • PMac
    PMac

    Okay. Thanks.

    Posted February 14, 2011 at 11:35 PM
  • Michael Glickert
    Michael Glickert

    Yes, we do have wireless at the office.

    Posted February 15, 2011 at 6:50 AM
  • Nick
    Nick

    Well, it turns out that writing an efficient algorithm to detect the collision between a triangle with all points moving independently and a moving sphere is somewhat tricky, but I'm over the hump and I'll have an update to show for my game.

    Posted March 2, 2011 at 11:53 AM
  • Randy
    Randy

    @Nick Did you end up using the old style of detect only if that point is within a certain range of the triangle? That can speed things up if you haven't yet. No reason to check for collisions if it's on the other side of the level. *Thinks back to graphing calculator days* Ah... memories. It's similar to the idea of graphics culling, where you don't render it unless you can see it... O-o... well, sorta... I mean more in performance then in logic.

    Posted March 2, 2011 at 12:33 PM
  • Nick
    Nick

    @Randy That works well as part of the broad-phase collision detection and it can give you some early exits in narrow-phase, but you can't just ignore the complicated cases, so they must be programmed. Thanks for the tip though. Free advice to any programmer: don't program this algorithm if you don't have to.

    Posted March 2, 2011 at 12:53 PM
  • Wes Ehrlichman
    Wes Ehrlichman

    Hey! I've been putting together the presentation for the meetup and I think it's going to be really fun! Everyone should invite as many people as they want because it's going to be very non-technical. There's going to be A TON of show and tell. The entire presentation is a big show and tell! I don't want to give too much away, but Steve G and John Anderson both NEED to be there. So please come! Get pumped!

    Posted March 4, 2011 at 10:32 AM
  • Daniel Eichling
    Daniel Eichling

    Rock on Wes. Michael, I guess I should ask - how many people can we fit and keep things reasonably comfortable? Also, sorry I'm quiet the week leading up to this, but I got hit with whatever flu crap is going around. If you haven't peeked at the Website doc please do so before the meeting, and also don't forget I need help finding an awesome spot for the big social in April.

    Posted March 4, 2011 at 10:57 AM
  • Wes Ehrlichman
    Wes Ehrlichman

    I tried looking at the UStream info and I can't figure out how to broadcast video as part of a meetup. Maybe Nick needs to set it up or give one of us permissions to set it up. Can we look into this ahead of time?

    Posted March 4, 2011 at 3:19 PM
  • Randy
    Randy

    It's not to hard as long as we have a webcam, a computer, and an internet connection that's fast enough. (1mb/s upload on the low end for a decent framerate... better prefered)

    What's interesting is on a windows pc you can use Xsplit software and show both the pc desktop as well as a webcam, and even have a logo overlay. (As well as multiple scenes to switch between them.) Pretty good for presentations and examples.

    I could help with the setup if needed. I'm not really all that busy.

    Posted March 4, 2011 at 3:51 PM | 1 like
  • Nick
    Nick

    @Wes I certainly don't see any options for that, but if someone knows something that I don' about what I need to do, just let me know.

    Posted March 4, 2011 at 6:14 PM
  • PMac
    PMac

    http://www.ustream.tv/producer

    Posted March 5, 2011 at 8:53 PM
  • Wes Ehrlichman
    Wes Ehrlichman

    That's the software, but how does it know to display on this meet-up group's site?

    Posted March 5, 2011 at 8:57 PM
  • PMac
    PMac

    There should be an embed code/script you get from your uStream account. Once you have the code, you should be able to paste it in your Meetup page's html area.

    Posted March 5, 2011 at 9:08 PM
  • PMac
    PMac

    Example Page...http://www.ustream.tv/channel/svnewtech
    Note: Click on embed, and note the first url is for a live stream.

    Posted March 5, 2011 at 9:10 PM
  • Daniel Eichling
    Daniel Eichling

    Got it, we can probably stick it up on the meetup page, but is there a reason not to just use the Ustream channel?

    http://www.ustream.tv/channel/saint-louis-game-dev-meetup

    Posted March 5, 2011 at 9:22 PM
  • Daniel Eichling
    Daniel Eichling

    Adding a page was easy enough, so there you go. Let me know if that's not what you were talking about.

    Posted March 5, 2011 at 9:31 PM
  • PMac
    PMac

    The uStream site is fine too...Just have to remember to provide the link in an obvious area on the Meetup site.

    Posted March 6, 2011 at 12:53 AM
  • PMac
    PMac

    The page looks good. If you haven't already done so, you may want to test the stream before Monday. http://www.meetup.com/St-Louis-Game-Developers/pages/Meet...

    Posted March 6, 2011 at 1:00 AM
  • Wes Ehrlichman
    Wes Ehrlichman

    Thanks Dan! You rock! I didn't have time to figure that stuff out ;)

    Posted March 6, 2011 at 1:16 PM
  • Michael Glickert
    Michael Glickert

    Just wanted to remind everyone that the meetup tonight will be at my office in Clayton. It's very close to the previous WorldKi headquarter's office. My office is in the same building as the Dominic-Michael Salon and the Clayton Pilates Studio (two buildings south of Straub's). Park around back and enter through the double doors. You can't miss us, we're at the bottom of the stairs. If you get lost, call the office; 314-721-1701 for more directions.

    See you all tonight!!!

    Posted March 7, 2011 at 3:32 PM
  • Randy
    Randy

    Well, I'm leaving now (I live in the Cedar Hill area) so I should be a little early to try and help setup with the streaming stuff. How early is too early?

    Posted March 7, 2011 at 5:27 PM
  • Wes Ehrlichman
    Wes Ehrlichman

    Here's the UStream http://www.ustream.tv/channel/saint-louis-game-dev-meetup

    Posted March 7, 2011 at 6:59 PM
  • Wes Ehrlichman
    Wes Ehrlichman

    Here's the info from the talk tonight
    http://superwes.com/?p=243

    Posted March 7, 2011 at 10:27 PM
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  • Daniel Eichling
    Co-Organizer
    Wes' presentation was just awesome. Good topic, great turnout and I hope a sign of some great things to come!
  • Randy
    Great, fun, lots faces I hadn't seen before. Ideas for meetups like this will make the group expand more. The Ustream process needs a bit more work, as a screen capture for video feed would be much better then webcam recording people on the side of the monitor. Only issue with that is that when others demo on a different computer it's hard to show off if you only have screen capture and a semi-decent webcam. But, onto the meetup rather then the streaming. Very informative to those just starting to look into game development. While I've messed with level editors before, it was more of a hobby to me then actual development, because it was fun... but, I can easily see how it can be used as an example to others about your idea without being as complex as programming. It was also interesting to see others projects and examples. I missed the first bit of the meeting in January, so I didn't see anyone projects. Hope to see more people at the next one, and maybe I can help with the streaming.
  • Tim
    lots of fun!
  • Michael Glickert
    Lots of people at this MeetUp. It's nice to see the game developers and collaborators in St. Louis having some organization and social interaction. Looking forward to the MeetUp in April!
  • Nick
    Organizer
    This meetup was lots of fun.
  • Jesse Chounard
    This was my favorite meetup so far. Excellent discussion topic and presentation, and we had a fantastic turnout. Tonight's show and tell included three games that will be headed to market in the near future, on top of the various hobby projects. It was great fun!
  • Aaron Klaser
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  • Benjamin M.
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