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RE: [libertarian-12] Survivalists

From: Jay
Sent on: Tuesday, October 7, 2008 12:57 PM
Are you Prepared right now????
2 weeks power outage...Are you ready to care your self and your family and friends? for two weeks "THINK"
How about just the basics....POWER it controls all of these...water, gas, lights, food.
 
I try to do it two years ago. 1 adult, 3 dogs and big family, friends and co-works.
After 4 days I was done...You can't drink the water, there's no types of gas, no kinds of lighting and no more food to buy, and list go on and on.
It will not matter if you have money try to get it.
 
So let this take out your life and please don't panic...You won't be any help to any one when the time comes.
 
 


From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Caleb
Sent: Tuesday, October 07,[masked]:14 PM
To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: [libertarian-12] Survivalists

It is what mailing lists are for, right?  It has me thinking.  Am I prepared and what am I prepared for?  I believe you are right in making sure the act of preparing doesn't take over your life but buying a couple of extra cans of food each time you shop can't hurt. Gathering the basics and planing for a disaster shouldn't take much more time or effort than planing and buying for a camping trip or a vacation.  Common Sense should be a rule.  Panic is your enemy.

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Tom W <[address removed]> wrote:
Umm, just for the record, I wasn't making light of Jenn's questions.  (Not sure if her reply, below, was directed at me or not, but just saying.....)

There's nothing wrong with preparedness and more education on one's options.
I wish I had more to offer in the way of relevant web links or other sources of info.  If I did, I'd gladly share them.

On the other hand, I see no harm in a little debate over the general issue of "What might our future hold in store for us?" either?  I would hope that on a mailing list like this one, focused on folks with libertarian ideals, such discussion would be much more fruitful than in some general political debate forum.  (I could do without filtering out all the "noise" of Democratic and Republican propaganda, promising they've got our future "all under control"!)

My original comments were only intended to express the fact that while it's great to be "prepared", it also comes at the expense of one's time, money and sometimes, even use of one's available physical space.  So it's wise to weigh all the pros and cons of actions before you take them.  (EG. Some people spent many thousands of dollars building nuclear fallout shelters, years back.  Much of that was motivated by fear and uncertainty, vs. careful and logical consideration of the facts.  After all, had a nuclear war broken out that required the shelter, they wouldn't have very likely accomplished much, besides buying themselves another month or few months of survival time.  You can only stay underground for so long, and your supplies only last so long.  Then what?  It wasn't a solution that took into account the very long-term problems that would result from such an event.)

If people don't wish to hold these types of discussions on this mailing list, I'll stop right here....  but seemed worthwhile to me.   <shrug>

- Tom
 

--- On Tue, 10/7/08, Jenn Gehrlein <[address removed]> wrote:
From: Jenn Gehrlein <[address removed]>

Subject: Re: [libertarian-12] Survivalists
To: [address removed]
Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 8:52 AM


Every time I send anything out to any of these political emailing lists it starts a big freakin debate.  I am not concerned about anything the news is warning me about, and I dont feel the need to spend 20 writing a rebutal to your opinions about how well off our country is. I have a child, and another one coming and it is natural for a mother to want to insure her babies will eat. If you find this humurous, good for you.

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