The Cambridge Semantic Web April Meetup

  • April 13, 2010 · 6:00 PM
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Agenda: Linked Data Open House Session. That will include discussions and demos covering: 1. Basic Introduction to Linked Data 2. Simple Demonstration of what Linked Data adds to the Web Experience (User Perspective) 3. Discussing Real Problems solved via Linked Data - Identity (via WebID using FOAF+SSL protocol) - Precision Search & Find - Strucutured Profiles - Data Access & Integration (e.g. how it builds on SOA and fixes Data Integration Challenges) 4. Business of Linked Data. Moderator/Presenter -- Kingsley Idehen Note: Others are welcome to present (10 minute slots are currently open).

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  • William C.

    I brought a couple friends to this meet-up because previous ones have been so great.
    Unfortunately the three of us left feeling that this particular event failed in its mission to de-mystify Linked data. For us, de-mystification would have happened if we had seen concrete, ideally non-intuitive and valuable examples of linking data with the present epoch of tools and standards.
    Instead we fell into the hole that opened as the advocates and the skeptics argued whether or not today's linked data tools and protocols were necessary, sufficient, and/or complete.
    We felt tossed about by the maelstrom as those who knew this stuff far better than we conducted an argument.
    To be most valuable to us on the outside, please demonstrate actual strengths and weaknesses with concrete examples that we can dig into and play with outside of the meet-up.
    Thanks very much for asking for feedback.

    April 26, 2010

  • Ted Thibodeau J.

    It can be hard to convey the overall experience of driving a car — especially to people who've never seen one, never mind sat behind the wheel — when expert mechanics are arguing about why fuel injection is better than a carburetor (or vice versa).

    Having a mix of experts and neophytes converse together is a good thing — but some presentations (including the group Q&A afterward!) must be allowed to be more glossy, surface surveys of the space, which neophytes can more easily grasp. Other sessions can focus on the nuances and subtleties with which the experts wrestle — which discussions can easily scare a new person out of ever attending again.

    I don't want to discourage experts from attending the surface surveys — far from it! — nor would I tell a neophyte not to attend an expert session. However, I would like more clarity on which sort of session is intended for any given evening, and for us to generally keep discussion within that shape ... at least until we report to the pub.

    April 15, 2010

  • Oleg S.

    The discussion about Linked Data was good. However, it hijacked to the very small details. I'm planning to attend more and hope it will improve in the future.

    April 14, 2010

  • Mark N.

    The "Linked Data Demystified" presentation degenerated into an argument about esoteric points that would be lost to the new comers. This should have been deferred to the bar session rather than egged on by Tim.

    April 14, 2010

  • A former member
    A former member

    Kingsley's intent for the meeting was great. Unfortunately, the questions hijacked the session to a level that probably did not help those who wanted to learn about Linked Data. Getting into the nodes discussion and critique of the data model seemed to be way beyond the scope of the agenda IMHO. Perhaps some ground rules at the beginning of a session like this would help the presenter get through their slides without so many side tracks. If the intent is to do a deep dive into the technical nuances that is ok but we need to make sure that everyone knows it in advance.

    April 14, 2010

  • Mohan B.

    Nice presentations and discussions. I would look forward to every such meeting!

    April 14, 2010

  • Mike W.

    The meeting was excellent. It clarified things for me and provided information on where to focus my efforts to learn more. I hope to be able to make use of linked data as soon as this semester is over.

    I came to my first meeting out of curiosity, having no idea what linked data was. After my second meeting I think I have a much better understanding of what linked data is, why its important, and how to get started using it. More importantly, the meeting was inspirational. School has been a drag this semester. Tonight made me feel a spark that reminded me of my early years of programming, back in the eighties.

    Thank you folks, especially Ted, Kingsley, and Tim.

    Cheers,

    Mike

    April 13, 2010

  • David E.

    First time ever to my memory there was a spirited discussion of "names." If the Semantic Web is going to be semantic, somehow "names" needs to be addressed.

    April 13, 2010

  • ms

    Started late. Went on too long.

    April 13, 2010

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