Star Trails and Light Painting at Fred Lossing Observatory

  • September 5, 2013 · 9:30 PM
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CHANGE OF DATE:

According to the weather network, Thursday September 5th is going to be crystal clear skies.

 

 

IMPORTANT:  PLEASE READ ALL THE DETAILS BELOW

 

The address of 2854 is approximate and slightly off if you google map this place.  It doesn't have a solid address.  Use this link to google maps  HERE It is very easy to drive by.  Here's a day time view of the entrance.

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

This meetup depends on the new moon, no city light pollution and little to no clouds.   The photo below is from our last meetup at this location.  (taken by Paul Lam)   (Link to last meetup HERE)  You do NOT need a telephoto lens or telescope.  Your[masked]mm lens will not bring stars that are 200 million lightyears away noticeably closer.


 

Star Trails + Light Painting Example  (source)

 

 

About the last experience at Fred Lossing:

  • It is DARK!!!!  Almost no light pollution
  • Bring dim pocket flashlights for navigation / camera operation
  • It's a massive field with short grass that will take your breath away on a clear night where the Milky Way Galaxy can be seen with the naked eye
  • For those wanting to light paint, there are areas on site far enough away to not pollute the star trail people
  • PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE arrive on time!  The idea is we will start shooting at 9:30 pm.  People arriving late will have their vehicle headlights ruin everyone's photos even though the field is hundreds of feet away.  Imagine being 30 minutes into a 45 minute long exposure and someone causes your image to go pure white because they couldn't make it on time.

Beginners to advanced welcomed!  I will be able to provide basic help to those wanting it and I'm sure just like last time, there will be some very experienced folks to also provide assistance.  There is tons of opportunity at this slow paced meetup to talk shop or just relax and enjoy the galaxy.  It will take your breath away.

 

Need to have:

  • Camera capable of long shutter speeds. Some photographers take multiple 30 second exposures and combine them after to prevent hot pixels and noise.
  • Remote shutter release or timed shutter.
  • Tripod

Nice To Have (in no particular order)

  • Bright lenses ( F/1.4 - 4)
  • Camera with timer capabilities, mirror up options, and exposure delay
  • Telescope / DSLR combo for deep space astronomy shots (not for star trails)
  • A LAWN CHAIR! (man I wish I brought this the last time)  Some of the exposure times were over 20 minutes and the grass was cold
  • Snacks and refreshments
  • Camera and/or UFO abduction stories to share during those long exposures lol
  • Flashlights if you're painting.

 

Pre-Meeting Discussion In Parking Lot

At 9pm sharp, we will meet in the parking lot.  Please don't goto the field right away.  We will separate the light painters from the star trail folks and decide on locations.  This doesn't mean that you can't mix it up later... it's just that the last meetup, we had people waving flashlights around ruining exposures who didn't understand the effect it had

 

Supplemental Info

I'm new at this myself and likely missing information above. It would be helpful to google this subject and add your comments / suggestions.

Meeting Location: http://www.millofkintail.com/directions.htm

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Google Maps:

Note when you zoom in, there's a little "Mill of Kintail" tree  HERE

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fred P. Lossing Observatory Info: http://www.mvc.on.ca/conservation-areas/mill-of-kintail (map in the bottom of the page)
Observatory Clear Sky Chart: http://cleardarksky.com/c/FLOkey.html

Tech link 1: http://www.jamesvernacotola.com/Resources/How-To-Photograph-Star-Trails/12233655_V7cX4D

Tech link 2: http://www.lightstalking.com/how-to-photograph-star-trails

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  • Jeremy M.

    That was fun. I've never tried photographing the heavens before. I ended up with a couple of decent photos (posted to the gallery), but I could use some advice on composition (I basically couldn't see anything through the viewfinder, so I winged it) and post processing (I couldn't bring out the pretty colours in the Milky Way that others did). Any suggestions on good tutorials around the web?

    September 8, 2013

  • Paul W.

    There seemed to be some confusion about the location of this event. The Fred Lossing Observatory (FLO) and the Mill of Kintail are different locations. I happened to be at the FLO that evening, with my telescope, and noticed that there were some people from this grroup that were arriving for this meet-up. If people are interested, perhaps I could contact the Ottawa Centre of the Royal Astronomy Society of Canada (RASC) about showing the FLO to members of this group.

    1 · September 7, 2013

    • Jana

      That would be fantastic. Very interested in seeing the observatory.

      September 7, 2013

  • Nasser

    It was an amazing night for a star trails. Lots of experiments. we stayed till 1:30 in the morning. Definetly I would go again.

    2 · September 6, 2013

    • Nasser

      You are definetly welcome to try the laser.

      1 · September 7, 2013

    • Derek K.

      Awesome, thank you! I didn't mean yours, but if we meet up again I'd be happy to try it. :)

      1 · September 7, 2013

  • Jeff G.

    Excellent shots everyone!

    September 7, 2013

  • Myriam C.

    I hope this can happen again! I was supposed to be there but my class ended later than normal so I missed out!

    September 6, 2013

  • Jana

    Jeff picked a perfect night, the visibility was incredible. My first try at doing star trails was a lot of fun. Next time mittens and a boots - I was frozen for the rest of the night. Many thanks for welcoming new participants and for organizing this.

    1 · September 6, 2013

  • Reg M.

    Thank you Jeff Green for organizing this meetup! I met some nice people, learned a lot, and enjoyed myself. Thanks also to all the "pros" for all the advice. Cheers all.

    1 · September 6, 2013

  • Trish L.

    I'm so bummed I missed the chance last night. But heading home from Ottawa to Arnprior I did get to see how amazing the sky was last night and it made it that much more disappointing. I could have shown late around 10pm but I think I would have had many angry with me if they were already into their shots.

    Maybe I'll head over there tonight as see what I can get. I'm crossing my fingers for a clear night again!!

    September 6, 2013

  • Alex B.

    Bloody AWESOME time! Also bloody COLD (my fault for not dressing warmer)!! Skies were dark and clear. Amazing what you can see without the light pollution!! Special thanks to Marie for the loaner blanket.........that was super nice of ya ;)

    1 · September 6, 2013

  • Aaron

    Excellent!! Met a few like minded individuals and had a great time.

    September 6, 2013

  • Timothy

    Unfortunately I have to back out at the last minute and can't attend. Have fun everyone!

    September 5, 2013

  • Nasser

    I am planing on bringing a telescope to take advantage of tonights dark sky. Also I will be going before sunset to setup with sun light. I hope no one minds?

    September 5, 2013

  • Derek K.

    I'm wondering if this location (Mill of Kintail) will be open for visiting before 9pm? I'd be happy to arrive earlier to scout for shooting angles, but the hours of operation indicate the place is closed in the late afternoon... can anyone show up, park and walk the grounds before the meeting?

    September 3, 2013

    • Derek K.

      Excellent, thank you for that information, Pierre! Do you know where the photography will be taking place? The title of the meet says "Fred Lossing Observatory", which is a fair walk away from the parking lot.

      September 4, 2013

    • Pierre R G.

      I believe that we will be using the field and the other open spaces on the Mill of Kintail property. You are quite correct that the Fred Losing observatory is a fair walk north of the Mill of Kintail.

      1 · September 5, 2013

  • Mamun

    I am going to try and head out there early to catch the sunset... If worst comes to worst... At the very least I will catch a nice sunset with some cloud cover :)

    September 5, 2013

  • Wahed M.

    Car Pool Thought - I am at Strandherd and Woodroffe and if some one lives in Nepean can meet at Followfield station and then go from there (my car can take four max). That way we can save on Gas. Please text me if you can provide ride / need ride[masked] 8920. I am thinking each rider could chip in $3. My Plan is to return latest by 2 AM.

    September 5, 2013

  • Philip R.

    I wish everyone a great time and shoot. Wish I could go, but can't stay up this late on week nights, lol!

    September 5, 2013

  • Mike A.

    As if they knew about the meetup, LightStalking posted an article on photographing the Milky Way this morning

    http://www.lightstalking.com/how-to-photograph-the-milky-way

    I'd really like to join everyone, but I've got this stupid cold I can't shake, and I'm sure standing out in a field in 4C weather won't help.

    September 5, 2013

  • Aroop G.

    Sorry, have to bail out. Conflict with another shoot. May attempt tonight or Friday.

    September 4, 2013

  • Pierre R G.

    Bring as many spare fully charged batteries as you have and keep them warm close to your body somehow.

    1 · September 4, 2013

  • Derek K.

    Hello! I just joined the group and am considering attending this event if the weather cooperates and if no one minds. I assume it's open for everyone? :-)

    September 2, 2013

    • Jeff G.

      It's open for all members of this group and their guest(s)

      1 · September 3, 2013

    • Derek K.

      Thanks Jeff, I hope I can attend - never done a group night shoot before - I'm looking forward to it. :-)

      September 3, 2013

  • Tedford C.

    can't wait :)

    September 3, 2013

  • Nasser

    Looking forward to it

    September 3, 2013

  • Jeff G.

    Thursday September 5th @ 9:30 pm is our magical night folks. I can feel it. I am sort of glad things were postponed a few times because of all the new people signed up are crazy talented and will allow for more collaboration for everyone. People who are new, this is your chance to learn with some incredibly skilled people without having to fork out a ton of cash.

    1 · September 3, 2013

  • Aruna

    Maybe you guys already know this link, but sometimes I use this to find a clear skies "window" for a particular night:
    http://cleardarksky.com/c/Ottawakey.html?1

    I didn't know anyone from that night, but because of this meetup I went to Mill of Kintail for the first time. Thank you guys for organizing this anyhow. I managed to take about 4 photos:http://www.flickr.com/photos/arunakalu/

    2 · August 9, 2013

    • Aruna

      Hi Perpetua, thanks for the kind words. I shoot with a full-frame camera. ISO 6400, RAW, f/4 and exposure time varies between 15" to 25". Last time I used a 16-35mm lens, so wide open was f/4. Sometimes I use the f2.8 and reduce exposure accordingly. Formula to avoid star trails is 600/focal length. I also focus on infinity (manual) and close view finder. Also I shoot with high-exposure NR on, which will remove digital noise in the photo during the shoot, even though it takes a bit longer.

      2 · August 12, 2013

    • Jeff G.

      Insane! The Star Trail meetup this year is going to kick ass with such crazy talent. Those of you just starting out, this is your chance to pick brains without having to spend $500 on a workshop.

      1 · September 3, 2013

  • Aaron

    Hey folks. Love doing star trails but haven't ever done a group shooting. Hope I'm not intruding and looking forward to some night shots.
    You can see a couple of my recent star trail shots here....
    https://plus.google.com/u/0/107105817457447237068/posts

    1 · August 30, 2013

    • Jeff G.

      Thanks for sharing Aaron. Awesome to have you join us.

      September 3, 2013

    • Jeff G.

      Can't wait to see what you put up in our meetup gallery.

      September 3, 2013

  • George K.

    If anyone would like a memory stick with Dr. R. Brown's stack-a-matic I have an extra one I got at Photoshop World last year, also on stick is plug in to use with "light trials"

    1 · September 2, 2013

    • Aroop G.

      I would like to have it if still available. Thanks

      1 · September 2, 2013

  • Mats Å.

    Ey

    September 2, 2013

  • Santy C.

    Can't wait

    1 · August 29, 2013

  • Reg M.

    This looks like fun. I hope the skies will be clear. Looking forward to meeting lots of you. :)

    1 · August 28, 2013

  • Myriam C.

    This sounds SO EXCITING!! :D

    2 · August 26, 2013

  • Nasser

    Looking forward to it

    2 · August 23, 2013

  • Aroop G.

    Canon shooters may find this useful. Someone is selling an intervalometer, I have a similar one I got on ebay for about the same price. Works like a charm
    http://bit.ly/1cXZ3yx

    1 · August 11, 2013

  • Maria P.

    What a great night, I have never seen the Milky Way. I can't wait to go again. Great people and so much laughter. I got so many great tips. Thank you to everyone for all there help.

    1 · August 7, 2013

    • Helena P.

      Was great evening with fun company!

      August 8, 2013

    • Jeff G.

      I am glad people still went. Good practise. I officially cancelled due to the cloud forcast and humid atmospheric conditions. However, people still had fun which is what counts. For September and fall weather, the clarity will be super crazy.

      August 9, 2013

  • Aroop G.

    It was a beautiful night for shooting star trails, barely any clouds, bunch of people showed up, some doing light painting. I was with Ryan, Maya and Scott. Thank you Ryan for your helpful hints.
    For me it was just a test run. Lessons learned:
    -Get there on time! Use a red LED headlamp. Sale at CR right now.
    -Check your lens to see if dew is settling on it. Wipe with a lens cloth. I probably lost 30 minutes of shots. Learn to operate camera in the dark. Shoot in M, set lens to infinity and put it in manual focus.
    -Bring a jacket, chair and snacks and some good jokes
    -Check out some youtube videos and websites for initial settings.
    I like this one: http://bit.ly/star_trails

    2 · August 7, 2013

    • Aroop G.

      @aruna, sorry a mistype, I meant CT, Canadian Tire.

      August 7, 2013

    • Aruna

      Thanks :-)

      August 7, 2013

  • Scott H.

    As has already been said, it was an amazing clear sky. Not a cloud in sight. It is amazing how detailed the sky is when it is so dark. Absolutely beautiful. For those who missed it, I have put an image on my site if you want to check it out http://www.scotthillphotography.ca/scott-hill-photography-blog/

    Hopefully, September will be clear as well. It is worth the trek to see the sky!!! Stunning detail with the naked eye.

    August 7, 2013

  • Ryan

    I'll be heading out to the site tonight for those who are willing to chance it with me. I can help the novices as well with either stars or light painting. I'll also have my telescope with me!

    1 · August 6, 2013

    • Trish L.

      Wish I would have seen the message earlier that people were still heading out. The sky out this way is pretty clear except for a few clouds.

      August 6, 2013

  • Amy A.

    Are we still meeting tonight, folks?

    August 6, 2013

    • Ryan

      the clear sky chart shows clear skies this evening. Its going to clear up!

      August 6, 2013

    • Maya

      Ryan and I are still heading up and take our chances on these clouds. Hope to see some if you there!

      August 6, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Hi Jeff. I'm sorry I can't make it back on time, my dispatcher send me today to Toronto and probably be back in Ottawa near 11pm-midnight. Will be looking forward for a next opportunity to attend... Thanks and have fun...

    August 6, 2013

  • Saken S.

    Cannot do it on a work-week evenings.

    August 5, 2013

  • Pierre R G.

    YOU should all know that the bridge crossing the Indian River just west of the entrance to the Mill of Kintail is closed. So there is no access from the west on Ramsay Rd (Concession Rd #8) .

    Coming from the east;
    Follow Highway #49 (March Rd) through the town of Almonte until you go up a hill and turn right at the Esso Station, Christian St. (County Rd #29) toward Pakenham.
    After 3 km, you will make a left turn on to Clayton Rd.
    After 1.4 km, you will make a right turn onto Ramsay Rd (Concession #8), {LEASE NOTE THAT THERE IS A BARRIER AT THIS INTERSECTION WHICH SAYS THE ROAD IS CLOSED FOR BRIDGE WORK AND IS FOR LOCAL TRAFFIC ONLY AND THAT THE MILL OF KINTAIL IS OPEN} go around the barrier and follow Ramsay Rd. for 1.7 km where you will find on your right the Parking Lot for the Mill of Kintail.

    August 5, 2013

  • Eryck B

    Im not sure if I can make it I dont have a ride, but just for reference if I want to do a 2 hour shutter speed what should my ISO and F-stop be at?

    August 4, 2013

    • Tyler L.

      2hr shutterspeed will make ur exposure white pretty much. anything over couple minutes would be too bright

      August 4, 2013

    • Allan Y.

      not necessarily, the photo I uploaded was 30 min and it is not bright at all...

      August 5, 2013

  • Maria P.

    What time are the gates going to open? Are we parking in the first parking lot and then walking, or can we park closer?

    August 5, 2013

  • Tyler L.

    I dont have a car, anyone willing to share a ride to the observatory? really looking forward to this!

    August 4, 2013

  • Tanjir

    Not very optimistic about the clear sky on Tuesday.. :(

    August 2, 2013

    • Ryan

      Wwaaay too early to predict! Lets stay positive :)

      1 · August 2, 2013

  • Santy C.

    does anyone know for how long the shooting session will be? thanks

    August 2, 2013

  • Jana

    Hoping for clear skies.

    July 29, 2013

  • Christian M.

    Event is off but if people are going I might also come. Plz say if you're going

    July 6, 2013

    • Nour

      I AM GOING

      July 6, 2013

    • Nour

      it was a clear sky :) and we had so much fun

      July 7, 2013

  • Nour

    I AM GOING TONIGHT

    1 · July 6, 2013

    • Christian M.

      Is anyone there now? I just got this message it'll take me an hr to get there

      1 · July 6, 2013

  • Alex B.

    So is the meetup on or off for tonight???

    2 · July 6, 2013

  • Wei C.

    Just a heads up for people are going to the observatory tomorrow or following days. Concession road is partially under construction. If you have seen the signal, don't turn around, keep driving. The Mill of Kintail is actually closed to the end of road block. I was there with Allan tonight and there are many stars but no Milky Way. You will need Above Average transparency for that. And please do remember to bring your OFF for those mosquitoes.

    July 6, 2013

    • Allan Y.

      Well summerized, (yeah OFF is essential, afterbite is supplementary) also, there are pilot student doing their night rating practice in this area, so it would be annoying. If any of you have access to local Tower, ask the pilot do not get in your lens:)

      July 6, 2013

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